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CPU heavy games youre out of luck either way, youll get lower FPS, in games that dont use as much CPU a high clocked Phenom will match or be slightly faster than an 8350. If youre sticking with AM3 skip the 8350 as investing in AM3 right now for any reason is an absolutely awful idea considering Zen and Kaby lake are knockin on the door

 

Good advice here. I gamed extensively on an 8320 and an 8370, and from experience I can say one needs a hearty overclock (4.5GHz minimum) to substantially improve 1080p (or less) gaming performance over the Phenom. As a budget option to mess about on a 4k TV, sure, but it's not a great 1080p option.

     
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You think I can hit max setting at 900p 60fps with a 480 and the 4 ghz 955?
    
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You think I can hit max setting at 900p 60fps with a 480 and the 4 ghz 955?

depends entirely on the game, wont tell you yes because some games the answer is no you will not but not because of the GPU and the 8350 wont change that. Dont bother with the 8350, get the 480 and enjoy it, or take the money you wouldve used on the 8350 and spend 50$ more to get an i3 cpu/mobo if you have to right now which will have better CPU performance than your Phenom. Then later pop in an i7 to replace the i3
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Basically Im hoping I can hit 60 fps at 900p maxed in GTA V, Fallout 4, Forza Horizon 3, and the upcoming Dead Rising 4 and Civ 6. Im not really worried about anything else.


I was gonna get the 8350 with mankind divided and sell the key for like 30$, but I guess I wont worry too much about the 8350. I just know this phenom is old and starting to chug hard. I know it has better single threaded IPC but I was hoping its multi core performance would make up for it in those specific games.
    
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More good advice. I run an i3 6320 in my HTPC; I can throw my 1070 into that rig and game nicely at 1080p. Getting a decent motherboard sets you up for a Skylake (or even Kaby Lake) i5 or i7 later on, if needed. Something like that might be a better place to start before looking into a new GPU.

     
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Basically Im hoping I can hit 60 fps at 900p maxed in GTA V, Fallout 4, Forza Horizon 3, and the upcoming Dead Rising 4 and Civ 6. Im not really worried about anything else.


I was gonna get the 8350 with mankind divided and sell the key for like 30$, but I guess I wont worry too much about the 8350. I just know this phenom is old and starting to chug hard. I know it has better single threaded IPC but I was hoping its multi core performance would make up for it in those specific games.

Im sorry it wont, the programs have to be aware and able to utilize the extra cores or you will see no difference at all. TBH What I would do is get a z170 mobo and an i3 6100 with an RX470 of your choice and you will have vastly superior gaming performance to your current rig at 1080p for the same price (give or take 20$) as a 480+8350

edit: entirely forgot about DDR4 ram on the skylake CPU, if you went with haswell itd be about the same, around 50$ more with DDR4 ram
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post #427 of 470
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Im sorry it wont, the programs have to be aware and able to utilize the extra cores or you will see no difference at all. TBH What I would do is get a z170 mobo and an i3 6100 with an RX470 of your choice and you will have vastly superior gaming performance to your current rig at 1080p for the same price (give or take 20$) as a 480+8350

 

I second that emotion. :2coolsmil Gives you an upgrade path or just nice performance at 900p for the foreseeable future.

     
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Hmm I made a post and it was deleted by a mod I guess with no explanation maybe I need to reword it, if you see this and want to delete it mods, please let me know why.

How much do you think a used 7850 DirectCUII 2GB and a HIS 7770 1GB would sell for respectively?

Also how much of an improvement do you think I would get going from a 4 ghz 955 to an 8350 in gaming? If marginal at best I will just wait for zen.

I intend to pick up an 8350 and a 480 8GB, hopefully I can play everything I want at max settings 1080p 60fps, and if not im not shy to bump that down to 900p.

Honestly, if I were you I would not decrease resolution. The difference between Custom settings High/Ultra and pure Ultra is usually impossible to see (less one uses side by side comparisons) and has a noticeable increase in frame-rate. I usually compromise resolution as the last thing, ever. Even in older games where the difference between presets were actually big.

Also there are some games on which actual max settings 60 fps are impossible to meet even at 900p. Even with a Titan X Pascal, you can not do it yet. Things like SSAA for example slaughter GPUs and even without that, global illumination on some newer titles is just too much. But if you are smart with settings, an R9 390/RX 480 are great for 1440P even.
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i'm curious but, shouldn't this thread be closed already? we all know the cards prices now and the original article was way off.
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Ive looked at about 1000 benchmarks over the past few weeks, and not only does the 1060 not "Stomp all over" the 480 8gb, just barely besting it by 10% at the most, but it isnt as future proof. We all know how AMD goes, I plan to have my next card for a few years, during the last year and a half before the next time I upgrade, AMDs drivers will have matured and it will easily best the 1060. This is not even taking into account DX12 performance.

No no no. I didnt say it stomped the rx480 8gb. I said it was a better value than the overpriced 8gb which is above msrp roght now. I did mean it stomps the rx470, beats the rx480 4gb, and matches the rx480 8gb. Remember that Nvidia drivers will improve too - and historically, Nvidia has had better drivers too.
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