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Hi All, I'm in the process of upgrading my setup. I've asked a similar question regarding the PC components here if you are interested in those details. As for this thread, I was hoping the community could direct me to a good, balanced, deal for a set of new monitors.

I'm looking for something good for gaming. I don't know much about monitor specs or what to really look for other than the resolution and refresh rate.
Currently my monitors have lots of horizontal artifacts when streaming videos - have no idea why. (Replaced video card, still consistent).

  • I'd like thin bezel, clean look.
  • No speakers or anything special.
  • I'd prefer support for wall/arm mounts but that isn't required.
  • 4K isn't necessary, probably impossible with budget
  • Size - 27"
  • Budget, ideally, less than $400 for dual - willing to push $500 if justified.


Currently I am eyeing this Asus MX279H.

Thanks in advance for any input. Obvious +rep for your help.
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Bump - any input?
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If you only want to spend $400 on 2 monitors then the one you are looking at is probably one of the only ways to go. Either that or this one and save a chunk of money: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0199W9UMS/ref=psdc_1292115011_t2_B00B17C5KO. The main difference seems to be the rated dynamic contrast ratio, 10mil:1 vs 80mil:1, though in real world I doubt there will be much difference at all. They both use IPS screens.

Do you NEED 2 monitors though? Seems such a shame to be buying all new stuff to last you a few years and going with a big 27" monitor yet still limiting yourself to 1080p
Edited by EniGma1987 - 7/14/16 at 6:30am
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agreed, if you just want screen real estate just get a widescreen 1440p monitor or something
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Originally Posted by EniGma1987 View Post

If you only want to spend $400 on 2 monitors then the one you are looking at is probably one of the only ways to go. Either that or this one and save a chunk of money: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0199W9UMS/ref=psdc_1292115011_t2_B00B17C5KO. The main difference seems to be the rated dynamic contrast ratio, 10mil:1 vs 80mil:1, though in real world I doubt there will be much difference at all. They both use IPS screens.

Do you NEED 2 monitors though? Seems such a shame to be buying all new stuff to last you a few years and going with a big 27" monitor yet still limiting yourself to 1080p


Thanks for the feedback. I spend a lot of time writing code, having two screens really make a difference. Also most of the time I like having Netflix up on one as I play in the other. I haven't used a single screen setup at home or work in over 6 years, I'm actually unsure if I could cope with that lol.

Could you honestly see a real difference between 4k and 1080 on a 27" screen? It seems as though it would be too small to matter. If so, I'm willing to consider a 4k monitor. For the purposes of my usage, I could probably just reuse my existing monitors with a single large 4k monitor. It would look dopey, but be cost effective, future proof, and functional.
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+1 on reusing your existing monitors with another. is there a reason you're after 27" specifically though? i do the same but use my laptop as a second screen for netflix at the family pc, 27" 1440p as main, and in my room i use a 34" 3440x1440p as my monitor and an old 32" flatscreen for netflix and whatnot.

as for seeing the difference, absolutely. maybe not with coding or web browsing, but anything graphics related the pixels are definitely noticeable.
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Thanks for the feedback. I spend a lot of time writing code, having two screens really make a difference. Also most of the time I like having Netflix up on one as I play in the other. I haven't used a single screen setup at home or work in over 6 years, I'm actually unsure if I could cope with that lol.

Could you honestly see a real difference between 4k and 1080 on a 27" screen? It seems as though it would be too small to matter. If so, I'm willing to consider a 4k monitor. For the purposes of my usage, I could probably just reuse my existing monitors with a single large 4k monitor. It would look dopey, but be cost effective, future proof, and functional.


If you do a lot of coding I would highly suggest a big 40" 4K monitor sitting next to one of your current monitors. I LOVE my 4K monitor for coding. Without it some stuff would take twice as long to figure out in debugging. I use this setup at work when doing machine code for industrial packaging machines. Ill attach a few pics to show how it looks. And you can see the code I work with on the 4K monitor. Look at how many lines I can see and how far across the columns of code. Then look at the exact same code when moved to my 1080p screen, cant see hardly anything.










Sure I used to code on that 1080p screen and it worked "fine", but once I convinced the office to let me buy a 4K 40" monitor I dont think I could ever go back. When I am trying to debug a problem on the code laptop in the machine shop I often times have to just put it away and say "ill brb, I have to go look at this in my office" and Ill go look, and then I can finally see the problem easily because I can see how the lines actually interact with each other on the same screen, without scrolling back and forth a billion times. it just makes things so much easier.


You could get this one for around your budget:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Crossover-COCO402UT-40-UHD-TV-4K-60Hz-3840x2160-VA-UHD-LED-TV-Monitor-/322079869894?hash=item4afd74cbc6:g:TFAAAOSwI2dXFYq0

Or if you dont have space for a 40" monitor, here is a 32 and 28" model:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-CROSSOVER-324K-UHD-32-3840x2160-60Hz-HDMI2-0-DP-4K-LED-Monitor-/331860417686?hash=item4d446c1c96:g:~BAAAOSwnLdWqsyO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-CROSSOVER-289K-UHD-28-3840x2160-60Hz-HDMI2-0-DP-4K-LED-Monitor-/331754744755?hash=item4d3e1fabb3:g:ZxgAAOSw5VFWQY7a


That 40" one is beast though. VA panel (my favorite by far), flicker free and low bluelight means easy on the eyes which is awesome for coding work, 4:4:4 support, HDCP2.2 for 4K Netflix. thumb.gif
Edited by EniGma1987 - 7/14/16 at 7:57am
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is there a reason you're after 27" specifically though?
Currently my home setup is 23.#" and my work setup is about 25" I believe. The 23 feels too small and the 25 feels almost right, but could go bigger. I'm not dead set on 27",it is just a general target to starts my hunt.
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You could get this one for around your budget:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Crossover-COCO402UT-40-UHD-TV-4K-60Hz-3840x2160-VA-UHD-LED-TV-Monitor-/322079869894?hash=item4afd74cbc6:g:TFAAAOSwI2dXFYq0

Or if you dont have space for a 40" monitor, here is a 32 and 28" model:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-CROSSOVER-324K-UHD-32-3840x2160-60Hz-HDMI2-0-DP-4K-LED-Monitor-/331860417686?hash=item4d446c1c96:g:~BAAAOSwnLdWqsyO

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-CROSSOVER-289K-UHD-28-3840x2160-60Hz-HDMI2-0-DP-4K-LED-Monitor-/331754744755?hash=item4d3e1fabb3:g:ZxgAAOSw5VFWQY7a


That 40" one is beast though. VA panel (my favorite by far), flicker free and low bluelight means easy on the eyes which is awesome for coding work, 4:4:4 support, HDCP2.2 for 4K Netflix. thumb.gif

Thanks for the suggestions. If I have to scroll on a 25" screen to see some code, restyling and refactoring is definitely in order. Java, groovy, c++...having columns like that really doesn't apply to my needs.

The suggested displays are labeled as TVs. I once used a TV as a monitor and remembered the colors weren't quite the same as a standard pc monitor. How would you rate these in that category? I'd like to also be able to play fast-paced games on them.
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Originally Posted by Zinxe View Post

Currently my home setup is 23.#" and my work setup is about 25" I believe. The 23 feels too small and the 25 feels almost right, but could go bigger. I'm not dead set on 27",it is just a general target to starts my hunt.
Thanks for the suggestions. If I have to scroll on a 25" screen to see some code, restyling and refactoring is definitely in order. Java, groovy, c++...having columns like that really doesn't apply to my needs.

The suggested displays are labeled as TVs. I once used a TV as a monitor and remembered the colors weren't quite the same as a standard pc monitor. How would you rate these in that category? I'd like to also be able to play fast-paced games on them.





I use an AMH 399U as my main display and gaming is perfectly fine on it. Colors on these will also be great as they are standard VA and IPS panel types and support 4:4:4 modes and all that. No drawbacks there. The color stuff people talk about its generally from when TVs have used 4:2:0 input and lower grade panels, these monitors use standard high grade panels and support full 4:4:4 like all great computer monitors. Here is a person testing this exact 40" monitor:


Quote:
I got this delivered this week, Chroma 4:4:4 is an option in Nvidia control panel:

Out of the box, gamma is way too high and contrast & brightness need work, after calibration it looks great.


Okay, I did a a dead pixel test, and my unit has none. Though I did get the perfect pixel option from dream-seller.

Also 4:4:4 test, successful:






I'll try a fighting game this weekend or tomorrow and see what the input lag is like.
edit 6/19: Played some Ultra Street Fighter 4 and Doom 2016, input lag is seamless to me. Maybe someone could be able to do a more thorough test with equipment, but my inputs were virtually instantly displayed on screen. Relieved I like this panel this much.


Also, looks like the Crossover 405K is about to be released, though it will probably be an extra $100-200. The difference is the 405K has a pair of DisplayPort inputs as well. And there is also a discussion on the panel it uses. The COCO402UT uses an LG MVA panel, and some people think the 405K might end up using a Samsung PVA panel.
Edited by EniGma1987 - 7/14/16 at 10:06am
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