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this is why we need Vulkan to win
sooner or later MS is going to be MS...

they charge money yearly for the Xbox Live, office 365, now enterprise windows, I can see them following this path with consumer windows, and if gaming is tied to DX12 we are in trouble, if Vulkan wins we can migrate to Linux or stay with older Windows versions.
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Windows Enterprise retails for ~330 with Subscription Advantage, and is not sold without. SA means you pay ~33% of the total, about $110 annually after two years to maintain the entitlement. So 165 a year for 2 years, 110 a year for subsequent years.
This new option for $84 annually is cheaper by far. Offices need Enterprise for App Locker, Direct Access and Branch Cache. I don't have many who utilize any other Enterprise only features. Windows to go doesn't fit for most offices. If you dont roll with App Locker, you have more issues with Cryptolocker and other malware/ransomeware items.
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A lot of big enterprises already pay sub fees to MS for office and 7 and server and what not.
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I dont understand what your math is trying to show at all. 5 machines, to license them on this sub would cost a bit over $5,000 for 12 years of time. What is that 356 in your math you have?

I forgot the .24c a day. And I meant 365...days in a year. $5k is a hell of a lot more than a single license for machines that never get upgraded. Factory environment running customized software so the OS can't be upgraded. This is not cheaper.
post #45 of 92
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Yes it always been that way. Eterprise is/was always a subscription. And its expensive to get. This adds a cheap option for small tiny businesses.

So what microsoft is doing is just giving businesses more choice. This is a good thing.

And no, regular windows consumers have no subscription to fear anytime soon or in the near future.

Per license though? Or in bulk.

Now corporations have to keep track of which computers are currently being used and which ones are not. Now if there is an issue with a PC it just gets replaced with a different one and the original is re-imaged. That will be a nightmare to keep track of how many licenses are actually being used.

I have factory machines still in use that are 12 years old. 5x XP licenses each. 5 x 356 x 12. $21,900 to license that over 12 years. $22k or 5 licenses. This does not make sense for user.

It really is not hard to know how many computers have talked to your domain and/or KMS server in the last month.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff793434.aspx yessir.gif

Works for Office too by the way.
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Per license though? Or in bulk.

Now corporations have to keep track of which computers are currently being used and which ones are not. Now if there is an issue with a PC it just gets replaced with a different one and the original is re-imaged. That will be a nightmare to keep track of how many licenses are actually being used.

I have factory machines still in use that are 12 years old. 5x XP licenses each. 5 x 356 x 12. $21,900 to license that over 12 years. $22k or 5 licenses. This does not make sense for user.

I dont understand what your math is trying to show at all. 5 machines, to license them on this sub would cost a bit over $5,000 for 12 years of time. What is that 356 in your math you have?

I think he's counting the number of days they've been alive? And then adding a $ to it.
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post #46 of 92
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We need a striped down Linux OS that it strictly an OS for gaming that uses Vulcan and can do internet.

By by M$.

No, we need a stripped down version of Windows strictly for gaming....
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Ain't gonna happen.

No money = no development.

There is a reason that despite Linux being around forever, being free, having the largest number of people working on it, and almost every computer enthusiast pining to use it, etc, that no one actually does use it. No one is willing to invest the time and money required to properly develop it without some form of compensation. The only way to solve that problem is to tie your development to a company that is willing to fund it, and has plans to profit off it.

I would gladly pay to support this enterprising individual(s).

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No, we need a stripped down version of Windows strictly for gaming....

I always thought too, but that would eat at their consoles.

Don't people realize that corporations and governing bodies sit around all day and think up schemes on how to make more money? I see it everyday and it's getting to the point of absurdity.
 
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We need a striped down Linux OS that it strictly an OS for gaming that uses Vulcan and can do internet.

By by M$.

No, we need a stripped down version of Windows strictly for gaming....

And it would make less than a 1% difference, if that. Download the AIK tools and try it yourself.
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The calm before the storm. This has been confirmed and always been MS plan to go subscription based with regular consumers. Part of the reason why they gave it away free for a full year. Reel em all in and then bam. Pay day $$$$$$$. Its never been a secret and MS has made it quite clear they are going this route. The comments are always quite entertaining. OMG to hell with MS I am going Linux etc etc.

The majority will do absolutely NOTHING. MS knows this. Only the hardcore tech nerds. If then. Pfffft. MS owns you and you will pay up. MS themselves is brash enough to say the same thing in their own twisted way.
I totally don't agree with you. I think MS is going to copy Apple and charge people 30$ish for major update.
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Per license though? Or in bulk.

Now corporations have to keep track of which computers are currently being used and which ones are not. Now if there is an issue with a PC it just gets replaced with a different one and the original is re-imaged. That will be a nightmare to keep track of how many licenses are actually being used.

I have factory machines still in use that are 12 years old. 5x XP licenses each. 5 x 356 x 12. $21,900 to license that over 12 years. $22k or 5 licenses. This does not make sense for user.

it does not mean that large corporations have to use this plan. its simply an additional cheaper option for small tiny businesses.

large corporations use a kms server which is liscensed for a certain number of windows pc. They do not have to track every indivisual pc. That would be a nightmare as you said.

oh and subscription is not coming to us regular users using the home/pro anytime soon or in the near future. The backlash would be huge. People will not pay.
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