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Originally Posted by FattysGoneWild View Post

MS wants to go the monthly route for consumers. I can see it now. Only $5 provides the best OS, features and security in the world for minimal cost. They will spin it so hard. Does not matter who jumped in early. Basically getting to use it for free for a year is good enough for MS. They to will be hit with the same subscription model.

Service service and SERVICE. MS has said from the start. Windows 10 will always be a service. They waited patiently for a year and now the time comes. As we speak. Mark my words. By this time next year. It will be subscription based for all consumers. They MIGHT offer a base version that has ad's, more tracking, less features etc. But, if you want that full unlock.

Gonna have to pay up.

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I think the reality of a possible subscription for regular consumers will end up somewhere in between the two extremes. Not as bad as some are thinking, but definitely not as good as others are claiming. There are several options that they may be considering and it doesn't take much to see that they allowed themselves a lot of freedom from the start to introduce changes later.

1. Windows as a service is the obvious premise;

2. In the support lifecycle page they list Windows 10 Home / Pro, "released in July 2015", and they have since the beginning, which is an odd thing to do because in the next column the support start date is mentioned as usual... unless you think of the possibilities that it opens, for example for the following hybrid approach:

They can divide the OS in branches, the first one being for those who took the "free" offer and those who paid for the OS at retail until July of 2016. They'll all be put into the "Windows 10 Home / Pro, "released in July 2015" category. This version of the OS will become feature locked within a year. They'll have the moral high ground to say that they gave you one (at worst, if you move to Windows 10 now) or two years (if you moved last year) of new features for free, so you can't complain (Windows 7 after SP1, which came out a year later, didn't get much else afterwards either, despite the mainstream support period being five years, it didn't even get native USB 3.0 support), plus you'll still get security updates... and a lot of nagware in the start Menu and lock screen and custom update dialogues to pay for the additional new features. Then everything that comes after, like DX 12.1, .2, .3, a special VR API, etc, will be locked behind a payment. It can be either a subscription or a one time fee - until the next batch of updates comes along in one or two years and you're required to pay again. And with the bonus that paying implies creating a store account.

After the "Windows 10 Home / Pro, "released in July 2015" there will be a "Windows 10 Home / Pro, released in July 2017" with a different set of conditions.



What I don't get is why Microsoft thinks (for now) that people aren't willing to pay for an OS and insists on the ad / tracking strategy. Windows holds a different position than iOS or Android, they can afford to charge. What I don't get is the pricing and the support period. 10 years is a mistake. They should go back to a global (features + security) 5 years like it was with Windows 95 / 98 / 98 SE and ME. But at the same time they should also cut the price in half. The regular version should cost the same as a triple A PC game, $59.99 (and the Pro version no more than $99.99). I don't get why they don't adopt this sensible strategy instead of the invasive mess they currently have. Isn't gaming one of the main reasons why people at home stick around with Windows? Then charge the price of a game for it. It's very simple and effective marketing right there. And best of all, I'm not charging anything for the advice. thumb.gif
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post #53 of 92
Considering the changes MS has made over the past couple years I can't come out and say definitively that there will never be a subscription service forced on consumers but I will say that it is HIGHLY unlikely they ever go that route with Windows. I know the M$ Hate Club will be all over this thread in force but let's wait to see them actually implement something like this first before us regular, non-MS haters go and grab the pitchforks, k?
post #54 of 92
Having millions of people sending their credit card numbers to Microsoft every month won't fly. I also doubt Microsoft would prevent you from booting your OS if you miss a payment. And blocking Windows Update until you pay would be a security risk and be like holding your computer hostage.

It won't happen.
Edited by aweir - 7/13/16 at 6:59pm
post #55 of 92
Between the price gouging form Nvidia and now the testing of a Windows based sub, it seems none of these companies want the pc to actually survive.

10 - 15 years time, well no doubt be in the same spot we were with the ps360 vs pc support where publishers will drop pc support to a minimum due to less and less people using the pc either because of stupid practices and/or prices.
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Once Windows 7 is no longer usable I'll probably just go to a hackintosh at that point, Micro$oft is just too much lately.
post #57 of 92
Apple update are "free" and have been since 10.8. 10.7 was $30, 10.5 and 10.6 were 130$ I can't remember how much Tiger and before cost.

RHEL isn't $49 for corporations that $49 is simply for home users to turn on RH's update server. RHEL for business if I recall correctly is ~$1000 per seat per year.

I imaging once MS gets the majority on W10 they'll start a sub, or free with ads type a deal.
 
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Will dx12 be the one compelling reason to switch to 10?

Another question here, if Microsoft is pushing the DX-12 so hard then why would Enterprise editions of their SERVICE be needed?

Most users will be home based because business can still use Windows XP to run their businesses effectively, so again why is DX-12 being pushed if Business has no use for it?
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No, we need a stripped down version of Windows strictly for gaming....

I always thought too, but that would eat at their consoles.

Don't people realize that corporations and governing bodies sit around all day and think up schemes on how to make more money? I see it everyday and it's getting to the point of absurdity.

All corporations have their share holders, DEMANDING increased dividends every month hence the accountants and lawyers are always called in to make proposals to initiate extra means, to legally extort money from end-users.

The typical way all Corporates operate in the World today.
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I hate to say this, but if this comes to end users i will be forced to go back to win 8 or make the permanent switch to a Linux disto.

If this comes to that, people will start to revert back to windows 7/8 and new computer owners with OEM windows 10 will start to pirate windows 7/8.
That is going to be a nightmare to MS. Also that is I think one of the only places that EU should step in (though with how they are acting, they will say its fine as long as IE is not included rolleyes.gif).
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