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I didn't think we had a fully autonomous cars on the road yet. On the Semi truck industry was pursuing it at the moment. All others I thought still fell under the category of "driving aids /assists".
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They certainly do when humans are actually driving them (or not very well to be precise).

Please tell me what is so natural about humans driving cars on asphalt roads? Very little of this has to do with natural selection because the environment that it occurs in is very far from natural. Is it natural selection when someone dies from workplace accidents, medical errors, or someone attacking them with a knife or another weapon?

Posting "lol natural selection" is just a really lazy and distasteful way to mock others death. People really need to stop posting that bollocks.
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1 less rich person to compete with. kungfu.gif
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Here is the thing though, it is the path of least resistance. If the car can technically drive itself, even if it shouldn't be used to do so, people will use it that way anyways because it is easier, it is the path of least resistance. Sometimes you have to protect people from themselves.

I wish we wouldnt. Just let them die and then there are less stupid people in the world tongue.gif
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Please tell me what is so natural about humans driving cars on asphalt roads? Very little of this has to do with natural selection because the environment that it occurs in is very far from natural. Is it natural selection when someone dies from workplace accidents, medical errors, or someone attacking them with a knife or another weapon?

Posting "lol natural selection" is just a really lazy and distasteful way to mock others death. People really need to stop posting that bollocks.

Yeah but... natural selection deals with an organism being able to adapt to its environment allowing it to produce more offspring, whether the environment is natural or not has nothing to do with it.

Two green bugs of the same species decide to live on asphalt that the tesla was driving on (which is not "natural") but only one is able to change color to match the asphalt while the other stays green/unable to change allowing it to be more noticeable to predators, leading to it being eaten, that is natural selection by definition...


Edt: Furthermore... if by medical reason you mean something like diabetes, heart failure, cancer, or whatever disease then yes that person dying from either of those medical reasons is natural selection.

Now a person attacking another, I'm not sure where that would fall. IMO, if that person fought their hardest to defend themselves and still died then I would think you could consider it natural selection depending on a few things like why the other person attacked them in the first place (they had more resources?).
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post #16 of 92
Why would you disable it? There is no fault in the system, what on earth is wrong with these people?
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Why would you disable it? There is no fault in the system, what on earth is wrong with these people?

Right now we dont know that for sure. There isnt enough detail to come to that conclusion for us. All we know is that this accident involved the car veering off the road and towards a post, and the 2nd accident reported was the car hitting a guardrail on a highway. Both cases had no input from the driver. We dont know why the car did either of those things in both accidents. Did the car software flip out and steer the car into those things? Did the car software work as intended and didnt correct where the car was going because it wasn't designed to and the driver was supposed to correct course? Did the software not see something it should have and that causes the car to go the wrong way? We just dont know cause there is not enough detail provided.

We do know why the fatal crash happened though, the software in the car did not "see" the truck in front of it because of the angle and white color of the truck trailer. So the car never saw there was an object in its path and went right into that object. Fault in the system. Though that fault probably cannot be corrected since bounding a laser forward for distance check only works if the laser can bounce back, and at the angle it cant do that. And the vision system used can only see properly when it is turned the right way and tuned right. Hence why these are assist features, not real self driving, because there are real limitations to the system.
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Jeez, how hard is it for some people to pay attention while they drive
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Wow, some people in this thread just dont give a damn lol.

What happened is really unfortunate, I wonder what happened prior to the accident, apparently the driver hadn't been in contact with the wheel for over two minutes after the autopilot/autosteer function was engaged, where they conscious at all?

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Jeez, how hard is it for some people to pay attention while they drive

Who has time for paying attention when you could be sleeping?

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Treating software that assists driving as a fully autonomous vehicle = doh.gif

Humans being stupid as usual.
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