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I don't think there will be an issue with fitment of your block...certainly looks like a reference card to me. Hopefully you don't have to deal with ASUS RMA though...they can really be terrible.

EK said the same. (that it should work not about ASUS support) I hope I don't have need for the RMA support. I did buy their 3 year warranty. Sucks that I have to pay extra for that from them. Thanks for your quick response. I've never used ASUS warranty. I had one of their motherboards that I killed. But I murdered it myself so I just purchased another and didn't use their RMA. My Asus laptop just died a few months ago, but it was around six years old and way out of warranty. I blew compressed air duster in the cpu vent and it somehow took out the cpu fan. I could probably take it apart and fix it, but I already have a better replacement. What was your experience?

Hopefully 2 rx480s will give me decent gaming for 3 or four years. I'm somewhat disappointed in the DX:MD performance. On one card I had to drop to 1080p in order to get 60fps very high settings. I can bump a couple of the settings to ultra and still get close to 60, but this is an AMD Gaming Evolved title and AMD says this is a 1440p card. I shouldn't need two for 2k. Just saying. I'm in the low 40s fps with my OC in this title at 2k with v-sync. Playable but not smooth like I'd hope. Min frames are much lower and it isn't pretty when it drops down. Looks fine in 1080p I guess. Up-convert on my TV helps. 2nd card should help.
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awhile ago i came here inquiring about 480's in crossfire... been wanting to mess around with amd again so i finally decided to box up my 1080 and pick up two asus rx 480 strix oc's to mess around with.. so far being having a blast with them.

i really like the strix cooler and pcb design. the cooler works really well in a single card configuration. runs very quiet and stays cool both on the core and vrm's. since both are open air designs crossfire the top card was getting quite toasty and thermal throttling (saw the vrm's hitting 90c and the core once in a WoW session hit 90c as well!). i blame mostly my high ambient room temps. so i took advantage of the pwm fan headers on the cards themselves and modified my 400c and added two 120mm fans to the side panel connected to the top gpu and that took care of that issue. top card now runs in the 70's on both core and vrm's and the bottom cards stays in the 60's. both cards staying locked at 1310mhz.



i really like how asus added the pwm fan headers on the back of the cards. its nice having two dedicated fans following the cards temperatures.

overall price the strix series is a premium. and this premium price hasn't been a 480 exclusive. the new strix series has been priced as a premium for all series that far under its banner. from my own strix 1080, to even the 1060, which last i saw was selling for $330 on newegg. it does damper the 480's price to performance ratio but when you compare it to other strix cards it balances out. its marketed as the premium 480 for those seeking a premium... 480.

the nitro i find to be the best price to performance 480 on the market if all you seek is the best price to performance 480. clocked similarly to the strix and offers similar features.

right now i've been playing WoW rigorously since legions launch and the 480's run it like a champ at max settings. near 100% usage across both cards. performance stand point i cannot tell the difference between them and my 1080. i'm sure the 1080 is faster in the end but the performance delta is small enough where i can't notice it without running some benchmark.

i dabbed a bit into cs:go, doom, and fallout 4. cs:go has been fantastic. at first ran it with crossfire but it was overkill... set crossfire to disabled with a profile and one 480 is still overkill for it lol. doom is self explanatory and fallout 4 with crossfire performed as well as my 1080.

ran heaven and i scored 106fps at 1080p with everything maxed which is 2 fps higher than my old evga 970 ftw (clocked at 1.5ghz) in sli scored so pretty happy there. in time spy i benched identically to my 1080.

for the price the 480's really pack a punch and really impressed with how fast AMD has been turning out new drivers / bug fixes. i've been completely thrilled with them and loving polaris.

As I'm about to go crossfire with my rx480, is fallout 4 smooth in 4k? I get mid 50s as my min with 1 480 oc to 1435mhz in 2k v-sync. Just wondering if I'm going overkill on that game for 2k or do I have a shot at getting 4k working half way smoothly? maybe 3840 by 2160 instead of 4096 by 2160? I haven't done any of the fps fixes for the game other than forcing border-less full-screen. I use v-sync. TechPowerUP says 60fps 4k in that title on the launch drivers, but they somehow turn off v-sync in the ini and their test system has faster cpu/ram than mine. Open world games are very cpu dependent. (there's not an option in the interface to disable v-sync because it breaks physics I think. It always did in older versions of the same engine anyway.) I'm about 20 hours or so into fallout4 but I switched up to DX:MD for now. The frame timing is a lot less smooth in DX:MD than it is in fallout4 it seems to me though I haven't measured. Fallout just looks smoother for the same fps. Same with ROTR.

Too bad Just Cause 3 wont support crossfire. I get 60fps 2k in that with one card OC. I was hoping for a 4k experience with that game. Oh well.

The two games that are coming out soon I'm hoping for decent performance on are Mafia III and Watchdogs 2. Watchdogs 2 is supposed to be dx12 and might be well optimized for AMD for once, but I had to shut down the first watchdog every 45 min or so and restart it to get proper performance. So we'll see. Here's hoping they learn to fix bugs.

As I got deals on both of my 480s, I'm about at $380 for both cards before my water blocks. As I'd only get one 1070 or 1080 due to price, I have to count one of the 2 water blocks in the price so... $497. (Any card I get would have to have a block, but 1080 would be only 1 block vs. 2 for crossfire. The 1080 block is about $20 more expensive last I checked but I don't know so I'm assuming for comparison that they are the same price.) For now there are times I wish I'd splurged and gotten a 1080, but that's still a huge price difference for not that much performance difference. Is it worth an extra $185 or more to not have to deal with crossfire or slI? I don't know. I tend to wait a few months after launch before i buy games anyway, so if crossfire will be supported at all it normally is by then. I'm over all pleased with my 1 480 and I'm hopeful I will enjoy playing with two.. I figure even 2 will mostly be a 2k experience with some 4k gaming mixed in and if need be some 1080p over the course of around a 3 to 4 year functional life. With better dx12 optimization and with PS4 pro/project scorpio both using polaris based gpus I have to think optimization will get better, maybe we'll see more 4k gaming with two than it currently seems. 2k looks fine for me at 7 feet on a 50 inch with the tv upconverting it to 4k anyway.

Thanks for your impressions.
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Oh yeah.

I hooked up my displays to the onboard GPU - computer started as normal.
Went into AB and disabled the auto startup also reset settings on RX480.

Hooked displays up to RX480 again - Black screen gone.

Yay!

so no need to go into safe mode or anything.
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The problem I have with HWInfo and the RX 480 is some of the values displayed are definitely way off;  Specifically GPU Core Voltage/Power from looking at some of my screen shots.  

And then GPU-Z doesn't read the VRM temperatures on the new AMD cards...like ***? I have to run 2 programs to get all the readings I want to look at mad.gif

The issue is corrected now with the new version of HWINFO.
The only thing now is the HWINFO displays the GPU Power lower then that of GPUZ - it's like 37W in HWINFO vs. 53W in GPUZ.
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So I might be joining the club soon, my 290x caught on fire and is dead lol hope I can get a refund
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As I'm about to go crossfire with my rx480, is fallout 4 smooth in 4k? I get mid 50s as my min with 1 480 oc to 1435mhz in 2k v-sync. Just wondering if I'm going overkill on that game for 2k or do I have a shot at getting 4k working half way smoothly? maybe 3840 by 2160 instead of 4096 by 2160? I haven't done any of the fps fixes for the game other than forcing border-less full-screen. I use v-sync. TechPowerUP says 60fps 4k in that title on the launch drivers, but they somehow turn off v-sync in the ini and their test system has faster cpu/ram than mine. Open world games are very cpu dependent. (there's not an option in the interface to disable v-sync because it breaks physics I think. It always did in older versions of the same engine anyway.) I'm about 20 hours or so into fallout4 but I switched up to DX:MD for now. The frame timing is a lot less smooth in DX:MD than it is in fallout4 it seems to me though I haven't measured. Fallout just looks smoother for the same fps. Same with ROTR.

Too bad Just Cause 3 wont support crossfire. I get 60fps 2k in that with one card OC. I was hoping for a 4k experience with that game. Oh well.

The two games that are coming out soon I'm hoping for decent performance on are Mafia III and Watchdogs 2. Watchdogs 2 is supposed to be dx12 and might be well optimized for AMD for once, but I had to shut down the first watchdog every 45 min or so and restart it to get proper performance. So we'll see. Here's hoping they learn to fix bugs.

As I got deals on both of my 480s, I'm about at $380 for both cards before my water blocks. As I'd only get one 1070 or 1080 due to price, I have to count one of the 2 water blocks in the price so... $497. (Any card I get would have to have a block, but 1080 would be only 1 block vs. 2 for crossfire. The 1080 block is about $20 more expensive last I checked but I don't know so I'm assuming for comparison that they are the same price.) For now there are times I wish I'd splurged and gotten a 1080, but that's still a huge price difference for not that much performance difference. Is it worth an extra $185 or more to not have to deal with crossfire or slI? I don't know. I tend to wait a few months after launch before i buy games anyway, so if crossfire will be supported at all it normally is by then. I'm over all pleased with my 1 480 and I'm hopeful I will enjoy playing with two.. I figure even 2 will mostly be a 2k experience with some 4k gaming mixed in and if need be some 1080p over the course of around a 3 to 4 year functional life. With better dx12 optimization and with PS4 pro/project scorpio both using polaris based gpus I have to think optimization will get better, maybe we'll see more 4k gaming with two than it currently seems. 2k looks fine for me at 7 feet on a 50 inch with the tv upconverting it to 4k anyway.

Thanks for your impressions.

i can't help you in the 4K front as I don't game at 4k. my monitor is a 1080p 144hz screen. from what i've seen with benchmarks the 480 crossfire in 4k falls in the line between a 1070 and a 1080. with crossfire it all comes down to how well the game supports multi-gpu and that's plagued both nvidia and amd equally. neither is superior or worse in this regard. if the game supports it well you can achieve amazing performance. such as battlefield 4, witcher 3, and even WoW. but then you get hit with a few like just cause that refuses to support multi-gpu with the engine. the 1080 isn't powerful enough to fully max out 4k and maintain 60fps+. who knows how well pascal will handle 4k in dx12 when its 1080p dx12 results are lackluster compared to amd. 4k is pretty demanding.

a single 480 is the sweet spot for 1080p. no issues maxing out games now or later at 1080p. it can do 1440p as you noted but you might have to drop some settings down from ultra to high to maintain 60 with the newer titles out now. 1440p is really how far a single 480 can go. considering it was targeted at the 1080p market it does surprisingly well in 1440p.

$380 for both is an amazing deal.
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@Roboyto Here's the run at ExtremeHD : Images! (Click to show)

@rdr09 This is polling @ 1000ms.

Compare your AB settings to mine. I always uncheck voltage monitoring. From past experience it affected gpu performance, especially during gaming. Makes the core fluctuate a bit.



I ran Valley and here is how it looks like on my 290 . . .



I excluded stuff like frametimes, so it will be easier to read. GPU usage is down the bottom.
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awhile ago i came here inquiring about 480's in crossfire... been wanting to mess around with amd again so i finally decided to box up my 1080 and pick up two asus rx 480 strix oc's to mess around with.. so far being having a blast with them.

i really like the strix cooler and pcb design. the cooler works really well in a single card configuration. runs very quiet and stays cool both on the core and vrm's. since both are open air designs crossfire the top card was getting quite toasty and thermal throttling (saw the vrm's hitting 90c and the core once in a WoW session hit 90c as well!). i blame mostly my high ambient room temps. so i took advantage of the pwm fan headers on the cards themselves and modified my 400c and added two 120mm fans to the side panel connected to the top gpu and that took care of that issue. top card now runs in the 70's on both core and vrm's and the bottom cards stays in the 60's. both cards staying locked at 1310mhz.
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i really like how asus added the pwm fan headers on the back of the cards. its nice having two dedicated fans following the cards temperatures.

overall price the strix series is a premium. and this premium price hasn't been a 480 exclusive. the new strix series has been priced as a premium for all series that far under its banner. from my own strix 1080, to even the 1060, which last i saw was selling for $330 on newegg. it does damper the 480's price to performance ratio but when you compare it to other strix cards it balances out. its marketed as the premium 480 for those seeking a premium... 480.

the nitro i find to be the best price to performance 480 on the market if all you seek is the best price to performance 480. clocked similarly to the strix and offers similar features.

right now i've been playing WoW rigorously since legions launch and the 480's run it like a champ at max settings. near 100% usage across both cards. performance stand point i cannot tell the difference between them and my 1080. i'm sure the 1080 is faster in the end but the performance delta is small enough where i can't notice it without running some benchmark.

i dabbed a bit into cs:go, doom, and fallout 4. cs:go has been fantastic. at first ran it with crossfire but it was overkill... set crossfire to disabled with a profile and one 480 is still overkill for it lol. doom is self explanatory and fallout 4 with crossfire performed as well as my 1080.

ran heaven and i scored 106fps at 1080p with everything maxed which is 2 fps higher than my old evga 970 ftw (clocked at 1.5ghz) in sli scored so pretty happy there. in time spy i benched identically to my 1080.

for the price the 480's really pack a punch and really impressed with how fast AMD has been turning out new drivers / bug fixes. i've been completely thrilled with them and loving polaris.

 

Welcome back to the red team!  I'm glad to see that you're having q pleasant experience with crossfire 480s. The new software with super frequent driver updates/fixes is a welcome change. I feel that AMD has finally identified some of their bigger weaknesses and is working diligently to rectify them.


@greytoad

 

A pair of 480s should be able to handle 4K if the game is optimized for Xfire and then the right mix of settings if you're willing to compromise a little; With the extra pixel count of 4K some settings are somewhat useless. Some people are adamant about turning every setting up to maximum even if it hamstrings performance and makes nearly no difference in visual fidelity...I'm not one of those people.

 

My single 290 has served me quite well over the last couple years driving 3K 5760x1080 with the right blend of settings. If my single 290 can do 3K, then a pair of 480s should do 4K. If you're willing to spend a little time tweaking settings and compromise a little in how it looks.

 


@cez4r Good to know they fixed HWInfo. I'll have to download the newest version as I'm at least a week behind. 

 


@Gladi That's another way to go about solving the problem as well; good job :thumbsups. Glad you're back up and running.

 


 

@Echoa Come on in, the water is nice :D

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Compare your AB settings to mine. I always uncheck voltage monitoring. From past experience it affected gpu performance, especially during gaming. Makes the core fluctuate a bit.



I ran Valley and here is how it looks like on my 290 . . .



I excluded stuff like frametimes, so it will be easier to read. GPU usage is down the bottom.

I saw as the voltage fluctuates, but there's an option to let the voltage static. By the way, is there an option to set the voltage more lower than -96mV? Stock voltage is 1,15V and 1,05V is stable for 1,3Ghz on mine 480 and I want to go lower.
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