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I'm pretty tired of dealing with the crap drivers from AMD. I'm ready to sell off my two cards and buy a 1080, I'll probably save up and wait for the 1080Ti or Titan XP
What kind of issues?
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Here is a question for everyone - if i just solder the missing parts on - mosfets, chokes, everything -will it work?
Unlikely, the software side as in the VRM controller needs to be configured for it. You're better off just hard modding a custom VRM instead for stuff like LN2 and needing to push beyond what the stock VRM can do.
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Hahah yeah I will remember that but I don't think I'll be taking them out anytime soon it was a pain in the ass to put in this cramped case.

Anyways here's my score in 3DMark at 1400MHz/2100MHz:

Timespy: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15005863

Firestrike: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15006057

Well can't do a validation of my results because the drivers are Beta very similar results en graphics, in CPU of course it's different. I am running with a old FX-8350 at 4.5 Ghz but for 60 fps gaming, still works biggrin.gif.-

Time Spy: 7.133
Firestrike: 13.331

CPU: FX-8350 @ 4.5 Ghz
Core: 1390 Mhz @ 1.81v (Real 1.75v/1.80v)
Mem: 2160 Mhz
CrossFireX: On



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Well can't do a validation of my results because the drivers are Beta very similar results en graphics, in CPU of course it's different. I am running with a old FX-8350 at 4.5 Ghz but for 60 fps gaming, still works biggrin.gif.-



......That's the CPU I'm planning on upgrading to... frown.gif
    
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......That's the CPU I'm planning on upgrading to... frown.gif

Yeah and my text it's wrong I have a 8320, buy I always say 8350 don't know why probably because nobody use a 8320 biggrin.gif
Ohh sorry about the Old - I mean it's not old... well yeah, but still good and cheaper, I have it from 2013 I think - But for little money, it's a good buy, If you can try to catch a 8350- put a evo 212+ like I have a decent motherboard 2600 mhz hypertransport and Northbridge, Mems at 2133 mhz - And enjoy - For 1080p/1440p at 60 fps, no problem.-
I Know a i5 or i7 it's better but I think it's amortized in my case almost 3 years without problems and OC from day 3.-
The good thing it's if you are a follower of AMD, the same cooler for the CPU will be 100% compatible with AM4, so if you buy a Evo, AIO Water or something you can use it.-

And the RX480 in CrossfireX don't stress too much the CPU so, if you want, and you find it cheaper, go ahead.-
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After pushing my card to its limit I could get without crashing or errors (1410/1875) decided to see how she does with no voltage increase. That leaves me with a 1350/1800mhz core/memory, not a bad everyday clock and keeps core at 65c under stress testing and VRMs at 77c. Perfectly reaches my 70 or less core and 80 or less vrm targets smile.gif
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@GecKoTDF From your timespy cpu score you're only 1 or 2 fps lower than my 4790k at 5 ghz. I get 18.07fps cpu timespy. For dx12 going forward, it looks like the problem with single core performance will be more and more minimized. I don't think you'll have any problems for games going forward. Also, I finally took your advice and went down to 1400mhz and 2135. I found I needed about 10mv more for stabe after 16.9.1/16.9.2 and my stable memory clock went way down. 2135 is the max mem on my 2nd card so I might as well run that. Could be degradation problem or it could be a driver thing. I'm not sure why stable settings are no longer stable. Not sure it matters. 1400 is stable. I ordered the block for my 2nd card and will put it in next week. We'll have very similar configurations/speeds so thanks for the benches.

I finally got my Just Cause 3 issue sorted today. Oddly, even though the problem persisted after a format, motherboard and a video card replacement, it went away deleting and re-downloading the game cache. I had my backup powersupply hooked up this time during the download instead of my usual powersupply so that's the only thing that was different. I don't know. Works now. I almost bought a copy of Just Cause 3 to give to someone here to test. Probably Roboyto since he loves to test things and has an almost identical system to mine. I even had it my cart, but something made me think to try deleting the cache and re-downloading. This time it worked. Takes 15 hours for me to download on my slow rural connection. ugh.

The reference pcb is flimsy. I'm not liking that about the rx480. I'm converting my loop to for my case to lay flat so don't accidentally put stress on the pcb. Even with a support post I worry. The EK blocks are heavy. I'll have the 240 on the outside of the case and my reservoir/pump also outside. I'm going to drill 2 new inlet holes next to the powersupply for the tubing. It'll give me a lot more room inside the case. I could even put a drive bay back in if I wanted to. I wont. But I could.

The 240 rad is a coolgate and has 4 ports on it. That means, by having it outside the case I'll have an easy drain port. The res will be an easy external fill port then. My loop will be a lot more convenient. However the added 2 feet of tubing might reduce my flow slightly.

The Visio D50u-D1 seems to have 1 led that's a little brighter than all the others. The LED grid isn't uniform and has some dimming in three of the corners as well. I'm mostly still happy with it. I only really notice it when looking at a white background. It looks fine in video and in games. Text is very clear and I don't notice it while reading if I don't wear my glasses. Even if I do, I can ignore it. But still. The TV is only 2 weeks old.

edit: it may be more like an extra 3 feet of tubing because the outlet on my 240 will run from the case fan down to where my powersupply is now. Into the case and across all the way to the front to the 420 rad.
Edited by greytoad - 9/23/16 at 9:45pm
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Yeah and my text it's wrong I have a 8320, buy I always say 8350 don't know why probably because nobody use a 8320 biggrin.gif
Ohh sorry about the Old - I mean it's not old... well yeah, but still good and cheaper, I have it from 2013 I think - But for little money, it's a good buy, If you can try to catch a 8350- put a evo 212+ like I have a decent motherboard 2600 mhz hypertransport and Northbridge, Mems at 2133 mhz - And enjoy - For 1080p/1440p at 60 fps, no problem.-
I Know a i5 or i7 it's better but I think it's amortized in my case almost 3 years without problems and OC from day 3.-
The good thing it's if you are a follower of AMD, the same cooler for the CPU will be 100% compatible with AM4, so if you buy a Evo, AIO Water or something you can use it.-

And the RX480 in CrossfireX don't stress too much the CPU so, if you want, and you find it cheaper, go ahead.-

I paid $100 for my motherboard, CPU, and Ram all together in a package deal very lightly used. So I'm cheap. haha I was looking down the FX line, and I do have a hyper 212 evo, currently on my 6800k I'm running a daily 4.6Ghz OC and (according to my monitoring programs) max temp on the hottest day we've had was around 52C and I only have the stock fan on push attatched to the radiator.

All that aside, 8350 or 8370 depending on the price I can get it for since I'll need a new motherboard too. If I feel super frugal when I'm doing my new build I would get a second 470 nitro+ 8Gb card to run with it, and I plan on getting a minimum of 16Gb of ram.

Currently I get pretty good almost solid 60fps in Fallout 4, untill I hit NPC heavy territory then my CPU gets bogged down and droops my framerates to around 35-40 or lower depending on how many there are. Doom was 60FPS on ultra 1080 all day, and all of the other games I've tried so far have been as well (older titles though)

Hopefully I can save some money up over the next few months for a new build, selling my current one afterwards would deff help offset the cost too.
    
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I did't count on open world games. Yeah Fallout is also ram speed sensitive. I gained a bit between 1600 and 2200 on my memory. Can you oc your ram? I run in the mid 50s to 60 at 2k in fallout 4. Occasionally I dip into upper 40s, but it doesn't seem to be npc related. It's very random. Again, that's at 2k with 1 rx480 with my oc turned off. Luckily frame timing is very good it seems in fallout 4. upper 40s still looks pretty smooth compared to other games at that fps (looking at you Deus Ex Mankind Divided.)
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@GecKoTDF From your timespy cpu score you're only 1 or 2 fps lower than my 4790k at 5 ghz. I get 18.07fps cpu timespy. For dx12 going forward, it looks like the problem with single core performance will be more and more minimized. I don't think you'll have any problems for games going forward. Also, I finally took your advice and went down to 1400mhz and 2135. I found I needed about 10mv more for stabe after 16.9.1/16.9.2 and my stable memory clock went way down. 2135 is the max mem on my 2nd card so I might as well run that. Could be degradation problem or it could be a driver thing. I'm not sure why stable settings are no longer stable. Not sure it matters. 1400 is stable. I ordered the block for my 2nd card and will put it in next week. We'll have very similar configurations/speeds so thanks for the benches.

I am glad the information was useful - About the FPS, I forget to check your time spy, was time ago - And It's logical have a few FPS less taking in mind I have 0.5 ghz less - It's clear still the freq it's more important than the cores but im sure like you this going to be more reduced with the time, and improve more the use of other cores, like in Vulkan for example.-
About the Mem freq, I discover something you can try... Less voltage you put, more memory freq you can get... don't know what the hell happends - But the story was when I discover this "insulate" problem in the GPU, I start the overclock again from 0 was very quick we now have the experience, now the drivers are more mature, and all that stuff.-
I get 1390 mhz core (may be 1400 mhz don't try really not time this week) with a real 1.81/85v - In the past I use 1.20/1.22 real voltage, don't know why I use so many, I was doing the things wrong - But anyway, with that high voltage The max mem freq I get was 2135 mhz without errors - But now I get 2160 mhz without errors and that it's a improvement - Of course from 1.21v to 1.81v it's a HUGE difference in temp's in GPU and VRM - So check with 1400 mhz - that's my recommended max sweet point of this video card, and the less voltage you can get, try with 1.75v real (thats 1.85v in GPU Tweak II) and test with Unigine Heaven or Valley (for crossfire) then for stability general use Firestrike (not neccesary ultra) If pass OK with 2135 mhz of Mem, use Metro Last Light and start to rise the Mem I am very sure if you are using less than real 1.85v are going to be able to get 2150/2160 mhz of ram freq.-

Another thing to take in mind be carereful with the CrossFireX and the voltage of the second card, don't know why, but here in my PC the second card by default its detected in the stage 7 with less voltage than the primary (I talk about this but I repeat) the problem with this it's you are going to sync the two video card in any overclocking software but the second will have less voltage in my case the difference it's 50mV a lot really.-
I have constant crashes with the CrossFireX then I see that problem - Remove the Sync option in the GPU Tweak II and manually add 50mv to the value of the primary card voltage in the second one for example my primary it's in 1.212 (real 1.81/85v) and the second one 1.262v (real 1.81/85v) that's because from default have a difference of 50mv , and problem solved perfect voltage in two video cards.-
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I paid $100 for my motherboard, CPU, and Ram all together in a package deal very lightly used. So I'm cheap. haha I was looking down the FX line, and I do have a hyper 212 evo, currently on my 6800k I'm running a daily 4.6Ghz OC and (according to my monitoring programs) max temp on the hottest day we've had was around 52C and I only have the stock fan on push attatched to the radiator.

All that aside, 8350 or 8370 depending on the price I can get it for since I'll need a new motherboard too. If I feel super frugal when I'm doing my new build I would get a second 470 nitro+ 8Gb card to run with it, and I plan on getting a minimum of 16Gb of ram.

Currently I get pretty good almost solid 60fps in Fallout 4, untill I hit NPC heavy territory then my CPU gets bogged down and droops my framerates to around 35-40 or lower depending on how many there are. Doom was 60FPS on ultra 1080 all day, and all of the other games I've tried so far have been as well (older titles though)

Hopefully I can save some money up over the next few months for a new build, selling my current one afterwards would deff help offset the cost too.

I see well you are going to be well with that CPU (8350/8370) and some overclock I play all that games and no problem at all - And if you can get all that for a few bucks it's a good deal - And take in mind the mem freq try to put it at 2133 mhz and the HT and Northbridge at 2600 mhz - Help a lot for FPS
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