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Originally Posted by toyz72 View Post

my 290 cost me over $300 at purchase time. i cant justify the 480 as an upgrade or a replacement card for my 290.....but i can see its worth. it has a 256 interface,8 gigs of vram,and is crossfire ready. in fact,i find its specs to be more appealing than a 1060.

It's not appealing to you because you're not the target market. Anyone with a 270/280 or older is the target market. For those people it is a large performance boost.
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Originally Posted by Orthello View Post

How much does the average 390x overclock ? also did the ref versions throttle like the 480 ref did .. i'm just wondering in a OC 480x say 1370/2250 clocks will catch an Ocd 390x more often than not in dx12 titles ?

Depends on how much voltage you apply and if you are willing to deal with noise from keeping the card/VRMs cool. I've owned and/or tweaked numerous 290's and a Devil 390X. All of them I touched were capable of 1200 core clock, or more, albeit with maximum voltage and power applied.

The 480 may be close in performance but it won't surpass it indefinitely. That's what most of the reviews are showing anyhow.

There was no reference 390(X) due to the essential rebrand of the 290(X) cards. They did receive better coolers from nearly all AIBs whom also addressed VRM cooling, which enabled higher out-of-the-box performance and room for overclocking with less noise.

If you have a 290(X)/390(X) then the 480 isn't going to be an upgrade. Vega cards when they emerge in the next 4-6 (supposedly) months will be what you're wanting.
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Hi, i got a reference RX 480 4GB for 219€ in germany and put the reference 8 GB bios on it. The stock voltage in state 7 is 1043 mV (ASIC quality is something like 86% if i remember correctly). My (over)clocking results are:
  • 1235 Mhz @ 990 mV, +0% PT
  • 1266 Mhz @ 1020 mV, +10% PT gives stable max clocks in games and benchmarks (http://www.3dmark.com/spy/150138)
  • 1300 Mhz @ 1055 mV, +15% PT needs about 2500 rmp fan speed to avoid temp limit (http://www.3dmark.com/spy/155537)
  • 1325 Mhz @ 1080 mV, +25% PT is either too hot or too loud for my taste (approx 3000 rmp)
  • higher clocks @ 1150 mV are possible but not worth it (with reference cooler).

Memory is 2200 Mhz @ 1025 mV with driver 16.7.2.

I will keep it at 1266 Mhz @ 1020 mV to save power and reduce noise. I loose 6% clock rate compared to the highest clocked custom design (1342 Mhz, Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ OC 8G) but saved at least 80 €. I am happy with what i got, but current prices are disappointing.
Edited by BromoL - 8/1/16 at 1:12am
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post #213 of 4340
You may be able to run power wattage on the memory. I run mine @ 2200/975. With 1100mv you should be able to get 1330 or higher.
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Hi, i got a reference RX 480 4GB for 219€ in germany and put the reference 8 GB bios on it. The stock voltage in state 7 is 1043 mV (ASIC quality is something like 86% if i remember correctly). My (over)clocking results are:
  • 1235 Mhz @ 990 mV, +0% PT
  • 1266 Mhz @ 1020 mV, +10% PT gives stable max clocks in games and benchmarks (http://www.3dmark.com/spy/150138)
  • 1300 Mhz @ 1055 mV, +15% PT needs about 2500 rmp fan speed to avoid temp limit (http://www.3dmark.com/spy/155537)
  • 1325 Mhz @ 1080 mV, +25% PT is either too hot or too loud for my taste (approx 3000 rmp)
  • higher clocks @ 1150 mV are possible but not worth it (with reference cooler).

Memory is 2200 Mhz @ 1025 mV with driver 16.7.2.

I will keep it at 1266 Mhz @ 1020 mV to save power and reduce noise. I loose 6% clock rate compared to the highest clocked custom design (1342 Mhz, Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ OC 8G) but saved at least 80 €. I am happy with what i got, but current prices are disappointing.
Where did you find 4GB reference 480? I couldn't find one even in Germany.
post #215 of 4340
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You may be able to run power wattage on the memory. I run mine @ 2200/975. With 1100mv you should be able to get 1330 or higher.

Memory at 2200 Mhz @ 1000 mV was not stable for me. GPU at 1330 Mhz @ 1100 mV is ok for a benchmark but much too loud for daily gaming.
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Where did you find 4GB reference 480? I couldn't find one even in Germany.

I ordered my Sapphire RX 480 4GB monday morning (July 3) from alternate.de after rumors of 8GB on board were circulating over the weekend. Shortly after my order the 4GB models disappeared from all online shops. Customer support from the shop said, it is unlikely that my order could be fulfilled. But, nevertheless, later that week it arrived. For 219 € it is a really nice product, but i would not consider it again for 269 € (reference) or 300 € (custom).
Edited by BromoL - 8/1/16 at 5:02am
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post #216 of 4340
Yeah they pulled those cards out of EU, they only launched with very small quantity to satisfy reviewers so they can't complain much about MSRP on launch and then those reference 4GB versions were gone, especially when they were just flashed over 8GB versions. I doubt they will sell any again, they will rely on board partners to sell custom 4GB versions...

It was a sick deal though to get a reference 4GB.
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Anyone tried new polaris card on linux?
post #218 of 4340
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Originally Posted by Roboyto View Post

How's that Nitro treating you?  Pro reviews have been largely positive from what I have read.

Have you attempted any overclocking yet?

Also, have you examined VRM temperatures with HWInfo perchance? Just wondering if AIBs made a conscious effort from the get-go or not.

I haven't really had the need to OC since It suits my needs for the moment, tho it's slightly limited by my CPU (E5-2670 is an older chip and isn't really a gaming CPU)

Heres the HWInfo



and Timespy score
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/193109
post #219 of 4340
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Originally Posted by Zoner View Post

I haven't really had the need to OC since It suits my needs for the moment, tho it's slightly limited by my CPU (E5-2670 is an older chip and isn't really a gaming CPU)

Heres the HWInfo HWINFO (Click to show)


and Timespy score
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/193109


Doesn't look like your CPU is holding you back at all actually. I got 4284 graphics score at 1350/2000 so the difference of 57 points is essentially negligible.

VRM temps are certainly respectable for a quiet air-cooled card. Looks like they did a nice job thumb.gif 

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post #220 of 4340
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Originally Posted by Roboyto View Post

It's not appealing to you because you're not the target market. Anyone with a 270/280 or older is the target market. For those people it is a large performance boost.
Depends on how much voltage you apply and if you are willing to deal with noise from keeping the card/VRMs cool. I've owned and/or tweaked numerous 290's and a Devil 390X. All of them I touched were capable of 1200 core clock, or more, albeit with maximum voltage and power applied.

The 480 may be close in performance but it won't surpass it indefinitely. That's what most of the reviews are showing anyhow.

There was no reference 390(X) due to the essential rebrand of the 290(X) cards. They did receive better coolers from nearly all AIBs whom also addressed VRM cooling, which enabled higher out-of-the-box performance and room for overclocking with less noise.

If you have a 290(X)/390(X) then the 480 isn't going to be an upgrade. Vega cards when they emerge in the next 4-6 (supposedly) months will be what you're wanting.

The more i read about pascal , the more its just maxwell on speed and its only slightly tweaked for dx12 vs maxwell so for me i'm going to wait for either vega or volta (true dx12 arch hopefully from NV) , if vega is disappointing then i just keep waiting. I'd really like AMD this time, with NV you just get put out to pasture too quickly as their next gens come on.

They will need to work miracles though with Vega, simply doubling polaris will get them nowhere near where they need to be , they sorely need a clock rate increase too ... when pascal is put at maxwell clocks its a very poor result for IPC (adoredTV review on this is a good watch) , negative IPC gains from what i saw - clock rate is getting them there overall. If the best vega can do is match a 1080 then i'm afraid it won't be enough - i hope that's not the target.
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