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Sorry, still newish to using wattman, so I should move the current state over to "state 3" and then add the other two to 0 and 1? Also, can't figure out how to add states to memory.. Ugh I'm such a noob still.

Well yes, the states go in their number order for how much performance is demanded from the GPU. For adding states does it not allow you to click and edit the N/A's? if they're locked then I guess there's a bug with it that AMD are still working on...

Still, you could just set the max mem clock to 600 and see how the card behaves when idling.
   
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post #2522 of 4151
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Sorry, still newish to using wattman, so I should move the current state over to "state 3" and then add the other two to 0 and 1? Also, can't figure out how to add states to memory.. Ugh I'm such a noob still.

Well yes, the states go in their number order for how much performance is demanded from the GPU. For adding states does it not allow you to click and edit the N/A's? if they're locked then I guess there's a bug with it that AMD are still working on...

Still, you could just set the max mem clock to 600 and see how the card behaves when idling.

Yeah they're locked, the only thing I can adjust is that ONE state and I can't go lower than 2000, only up. That's why I wasnt sure what to do, because I figured it would be as easy as click the N/A and change it. But nope. Not allowed. Can't add any states and cant' downclock the memory.
    
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memory only has one user adjustable state and you cant go below stock clocks. You have to use something like afterburner to go below stock AFAIK.
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Try again last night with latest windows 10 and amd updates, still black screen after playing csgo with xbox one app dvr off.
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Hey, any Asus Strix 470 owners here? How is the card? How well does it OC? I was thinking of picking one up to upgrade from my R9 280X, but not sure. I looked at Tom's Hardware benchmarks, it's about 25% to 90% faster on games I play, or want to play. (25% on DOOM, which I wanna get later, and 90% on Witcher 3) Most other games I play, like GTA V, Rise of the Tomb Raider and HITMAN (wanna get this one later) it's about 40 to 60% faster. I feel like it's not a bad upgrade, considering it's got 1 GB more VRAM and uses about half the power (which isn't much important to me, power is cheap here and I've got a 850 W PSU).

I just wanted to know how is the Strix model, cooling, and overclockability, I would like to hit about 1350 MHz on the core.

Thanks.

It is too expensive comparing other cards. OC is kind of meaningless except u just like it. Burning so more energy, make the life of the card much shorter, then for very few % gain.
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It is too expensive comparing other cards. OC is kind of meaningless except u just like it. Burning so more energy, make the life of the card much shorter, then for very few % gain.
Not if you undervolt it and keep it cool.
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It is too expensive comparing other cards. OC is kind of meaningless except u just like it. Burning so more energy, make the life of the card much shorter, then for very few % gain.

In my country it's actually cheaper than the other 470s, Sapphire and Gigabyte. Gigabyte AMD cards are crap, so that leaves Sapphire, which is currently out of stock on 4GB 470.

OC may shorten the chip's lifespan, but if it's running cool, it won't be much to matter at all. My CPU has been running on 4.5 GHz on all 8 cores for like a year and a half, never had issues. My GPU has been running at 1120 MHz core for longer than that, and again, never had issues. They may lose some life, but they'll be outdated far before they'll die because of OC.

Anyway, I decided to not get a 470 after all, I'll wait for 580 or something probably.
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Burning so more energy, make the life of the card much shorter, then for very few % gain.

Damn, sit down and listen biggrin.gif

The specs of every chip are not specific numbers, they are a curve. Take some random, made-up chip - it can run between 5Mhz and 90Mhz, between 0.8 and 1.6v, and depending on the chosen configuration, you need between 15 and 33W cooling capacity on the heatsink, to keep it operational. Place frequency on one axis, voltage on another, and heat dissipation on a third, you get a weird unique 3D graph for a chip, and you take ANY point of that graph - the chip can run at these specs perfectly, without shortening its lifespan.

On my previous job we were making radio signal processing devices, we had CPUs that can run between 15 and 70Mhz and between 1.0 and 2.5V, and that is all official, supported specs that the chip is guaranteed to work on. Using the max values does not shorten its lifespan. But you don't just use the max values for a low-end device, you program it to run slower, more energy-efficient, so you take the efficiency-bound share of the market, and you can sell your more expensive devices on the performance-bound share. And you also save money with the heatsinks, copper is expensive!

Now, the GPU companies make a bunch of nearly identical chips, and then the market department chooses the spec configurations for each, in order to take certain spots on the market. Sometimes the configuration is made more permanent by cutting off shader cores or stuff. In other cases it is just a software thing, like those Dual-core AMD CPUs that could unlock to Quad with lvl3 cache. Similar thing happens to core clocks - your GPU, the way it is when it comes out of the box, very rarely uses even 90% of its hardware's capacity. And we're talking about capacity that is still within each chip's supported specs, we're not talking about forcing it to do something it shouldn't be able to. Rising the clocks to utilize more of what your hardware is actually capable of does NOT shorten the lifespan of the card, if the OC is within the capacity of the chip. If you go overboard, like those l2n 7Ghz Phenoms we had back in the day, then of course you shorten the lifespan. But if you OC like most of us do - just a mild 200-300Mhz OC, that is still well within the capabilities of the chip, the longevity of the card will be the same.
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Does anyone know if the GloFlo 14nm process has improved by now?
I have read that so far, overclocking wise, NVidia's TSMC 16nm fares quite a bit better (relatively speaking).

Also, what is the best RX470 4GB card?
Finally, I am running a i3 6100 + gtx760. Now I am not even sure I want a new GPU, I don't really need one.
What would be a smarter decision, getting a 6600K or a RX470 4GB? Or neither?
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Does anyone know if the GloFlo 14nm process has improved by now?
I have read that so far, overclocking wise, NVidia's TSMC 16nm fares quite a bit better (relatively speaking).

Also, what is the best RX470 4GB card?
Finally, I am running a i3 6100 + gtx760. Now I am not even sure I want a new GPU, I don't really need one.
What would be a smarter decision, getting a 6600K or a RX470 4GB? Or neither?

The "best" Rx470 depends entirely on what you want and what you don't want in a card. For example, I want full compatibility with every piece of software and every third-party cooler, and I don't care about noise, that is why I got the reference Sapphire Rx470 Platinum, which is noisy, but everything works. If you want a more mainstream option, there is the Nitro, which if I remember correctly doesn't allow you to adjust the fan curve (not sure?). And forget about the expensive options, not worth giving extra 50$ for a 470.

But if I were you'd I'd take the CPU. There's a lot of action on the GPU market now, better wait and see what comes on top after the dust settles, and buy that.
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