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I can actually get it for like $16.00(US).

Have you ran the benchmark? It's DX11 and DX12 isn't it?

I love to bench, and playing it would be just a bonus! biggrin.gif

It looks amazing in what little I've watched. I did play RB6 over the weekend a little, it was just meh to me. I played like 2500+hours of BF4. BF1 not so much. To me, EA/Dice have ruined the overall experience. I guess I should have seen the writing on the wall with Hardline and Battlefront, but I bought it anyway. frown.gif

Thanks for the quick response though. I might pick it up later today....still trying to decide if I need another game....lol

I had decided to not buy other games at all in 2017, as i have perhaps 15 games to play through, but DeusEx was the only exception if it was on sale, and they reduced the price quite a bit, so I got it, and that's definitely the first and last game I'm buying in 2017! biggrin.gif

On your questions - Yes, it's Dx11 and Dx12.
The benchmark seems rather solid, it runs on one of the richest locations in the game, lots of details and effects, shows min, max and avg fps.
On my system, Dx12 mode, 1280x1024, I get about 65 FPS avg on Ultra, and 85 FPS avg on what I call "optimized ultra" smile.gif It's Ultra for everything that matters to me, but for example textures are Very High instead of Ultra, because Ultra textures are somewhat useless on 1280x1024, AO is SSAO instead of HBAO+, because I don't like HBAO very much, DoF and CA disabled because I hate them... you get the picture smile.gif
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I had decided to not buy other games at all in 2017, as i have perhaps 15 games to play through, but DeusEx was the only exception if it was on sale, and they reduced the price quite a bit, so I got it, and that's definitely the first and last game I'm buying in 2017! biggrin.gif

On your questions - Yes, it's Dx11 and Dx12.
The benchmark seems rather solid, it runs on one of the richest locations in the game, lots of details and effects, shows min, max and avg fps.
On my system, Dx12 mode, 1280x1024, I get about 65 FPS avg on Ultra, and 85 FPS avg on what I call "optimized ultra" smile.gif It's Ultra for everything that matters to me, but for example textures are Very High instead of Ultra, because Ultra textures are somewhat useless on 1280x1024, AO is SSAO instead of HBAO+, because I don't like HBAO very much, DoF and CA disabled because I hate them... you get the picture smile.gif

Yea, I watched a video earlier, when the poster was talking about a lot of the settings. He was using a GTX1080, but he went over a lot of settings that really affected the gameplay.

Here is a link if you want to check what he said:

I'm still on the fence...like I said, my main reason to pick it up would be for the benchmark... biggrin.gif I have a addiction...lol
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Yea, I watched a video earlier, when the poster was talking about a lot of the settings. He was using a GTX1080, but he went over a lot of settings that really affected the gameplay.

Here is a link if you want to check what he said: (vid)

I'm still on the fence...like I said, my main reason to pick it up would be for the benchmark... biggrin.gif I have a addiction...lol

I just remembered something you may find interesting or useful - this game seems to heat up my GPU more than other similarly heavy games. Perhaps that can be of use in your benching, idk smile.gif
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I just remembered something you may find interesting or useful - this game seems to heat up my GPU more than other similarly heavy games. Perhaps that can be of use in your benching, idk smile.gif

I normally keep everything stock during benchmarks. The only setting I change is the Power Limit. I have the 1060 in my rig at the moment, but we'll see how well it heats it up. Pascal doesn't like the heat, it will make the card throttle. I will keep a eye on it though. Normally, the lowest the clock will go is 1936mhz, even at say 68-70°.

I'll throw in the 470 in the next few days and see how it handles it too. It shouldn't throttle, as long as I keep the PW limit around +25.

I ordered via cdkeys, but have yet to receive the email with the key or downloading link. It's been over a hour! Supposed to be "instant delivery". mad.gif

I emailed support, but haven't heard back yet. I've used them before with not a single issue. I'm just playing the waiting game right now.
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Well, I finally got the key situation resolved. It only took them about 5 hours....lol

Anyway, what settings are you using?

I really haven't messed with it much yet. I just ran a couple of benchmarks. Ultra preset, no MMSA. It really hammers a card. I turned MMSA off completely on Ultra...was getting like 12fps. biggrin.gif

I think I got like 45fps on Ultra, and it seemed to gain about 10fps with each drop in presets. 55fps on Very High, 64fps on High. I didn't see any gain on DX12(dam nVidia). rolleyes.gif

I used Fraps to capture a csv file and dropped in to FLAT. I didn't hit the end of the benchmark exactly, so frame times jumped at the very end. I'll just post two of the charts.

Here is what it looked like:

Frame Times(DX12) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

FPS Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

EDIT: As I suspected, card sits at 1936/8000, temps were like 62°. I did play the first part a little, temps hit about 63°. It is a bit cool here tonight though.
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@ronnin426850

Well, I finally got the key situation resolved. It only took them about 5 hours....lol

Anyway, what settings are you using?

I really haven't messed with it much yet. I just ran a couple of benchmarks. Ultra preset, no MMSA. It really hammers a card. I turned MMSA off completely on Ultra...was getting like 12fps. biggrin.gif

I think I got like 45fps on Ultra, and it seemed to gain about 10fps with each drop in presets. 55fps on Very High, 64fps on High. I didn't see any gain on DX12(dam nVidia). rolleyes.gif

I used Fraps to capture a csv file and dropped in to FLAT. I didn't hit the end of the benchmark exactly, so frame times jumped at the very end. I'll just post two of the charts.

Here is what it looked like:

Frame Times(DX12) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

FPS Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

EDIT: As I suspected, card sits at 1936/8000, temps were like 62°. I did play the first part a little, temps hit about 63°. It is a bit cool here tonight though.

Ultra textures are for 4K, that coupled with MSAA - you're probably running out of VRAM. On both Very High and Ultra textures it shows a warning that it uses more than 4GB VRAM. I suspect Very High would go about 4.5-5GB, Ultra would push about 6GB, and +1GB for each if you have MSAA on.
Luckily I run on 1280x1024 and it doesn't seem I'll be running out of VRAM soon smile.gif Still, MSAA is pretty heavy for this game, everyone complains.

Here are my settings:
Fullscreen - ON
Exclusive Fullscreen - ON (I want to get every little fps boost possible)
DirectX 12 - OFF (causes heavy geometric artifacting)
Resolution - 1280x1024
MSAA - OFF (very heavy and not much better than Temporal)
Refresh Rate - 75Hz
VSync - Double Buffering (didn't see benefit from Tripple)
Stereoscopic 3D - OFF
---
Preset - Custom
Textures - Very High
Texture Filtering - 8x Anisotropic
Shadows - Very High
AO - ON (Very High causes some wrongly placed shadows)
Contact Hardening Shadows - ON (didn't see difference between On and Ultra)
Parallax Occlusion - High (very noticable)
DoF - OFF (hate it)
LoD - Very High
Volumetric Lighting - Ultra (noticable)
Screenspace Reflections - Ultra (anything lower looks horrid)
---
Temporal AA - ON
Motion Blur - OFF (hate it)
Sharpen - ON
Bloom - ON
Lens Flare - ON
Cloth Physics - OFF (must be off for Dx11 to have similar fps to Dx12)
Subsurface Scattering - ON
Chromatic Aberration - OFF (hate it)
Tessellation - OFF (didn't see difference in game, but causes glitches)
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Ultra textures are for 4K, that coupled with MSAA - you're probably running out of VRAM. On both Very High and Ultra textures it shows a warning that it uses more than 4GB VRAM. I suspect Very High would go about 4.5-5GB, Ultra would push about 6GB, and +1GB for each if you have MSAA on.
Luckily I run on 1280x1024 and it doesn't seem I'll be running out of VRAM soon smile.gif Still, MSAA is pretty heavy for this game, everyone complains.

Here are my settings: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Fullscreen - ON
Exclusive Fullscreen - ON (I want to get every little fps boost possible)
DirectX 12 - OFF (causes heavy geometric artifacting)
Resolution - 1280x1024
MSAA - OFF (very heavy and not much better than Temporal)
Refresh Rate - 75Hz
VSync - Double Buffering (didn't see benefit from Tripple)
Stereoscopic 3D - OFF
---
Preset - Custom
Textures - Very High
Texture Filtering - 8x Anisotropic
Shadows - Very High
AO - ON (Very High causes some wrongly placed shadows)
Contact Hardening Shadows - ON (didn't see difference between On and Ultra)
Parallax Occlusion - High (very noticable)
DoF - OFF (hate it)
LoD - Very High
Volumetric Lighting - Ultra (noticable)
Screenspace Reflections - Ultra (anything lower looks horrid)
---
Temporal AA - ON
Motion Blur - OFF (hate it)
Sharpen - ON
Bloom - ON
Lens Flare - ON
Cloth Physics - OFF (must be off for Dx11 to have similar fps to Dx12)
Subsurface Scattering - ON
Chromatic Aberration - OFF (hate it)
Tessellation - OFF (didn't see difference in game, but causes glitches)


Wow...thanks for all the details. +1 Rep

Using those settings, except for resolution(1920x1080), I get around 54fps. I'm not sure what the Vram usage was. I forgot to look.



I'm going to install this on my son's rig(he has the RX470) and see what kind of numbers he gets. He's running a i5-3470. I'll slap his card in here in the next couple of days and see if there is a huge difference with the CPU.
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I'm not sure how this stacks up to you, but here ya go.

I believe these were ran with your suggested settings only at 1920*1080:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



I think this is the same settings with the card OC to 1300:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

These are DX12. I think the first one was with your settings, the second one was with V-Sync Buffering off:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



This last one was with the Medium Default with double V-Sync buffering, DX11:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Here is HWiNFO64 for the last 4 or 5 runs. I forgot and reset it:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I will throw the RX470 in here when I get a chance and see if the i7 does better. One would think it would, but if my memory is correct, I ran Valley on his and then mine with the same card(GTX970), and the difference was only 1-2fps if that.
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Today when I played Bioshock infinite I needed to go somewhere outside my house, I leaved game open (didn't press esc) and when I returned fps in game was around 40fps. Usually in that scene fps is around 120. I thought that this is because game, some bug, but I wanted to be sure so I leaved XCOM enemy within around 1 hour in game and when I returned there was a fps drop from 130 to 60fps. What could this be? Broken card? RMA?
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Originally Posted by Hequaqua View Post

I'm not sure how this stacks up to you, but here ya go.

I believe these were ran with your suggested settings only at 1920*1080:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



I think this is the same settings with the card OC to 1300:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

These are DX12. I think the first one was with your settings, the second one was with V-Sync Buffering off:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



This last one was with the Medium Default with double V-Sync buffering, DX11:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Here is HWiNFO64 for the last 4 or 5 runs. I forgot and reset it:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I will throw the RX470 in here when I get a chance and see if the i7 does better. One would think it would, but if my memory is correct, I ran Valley on his and then mine with the same card(GTX970), and the difference was only 1-2fps if that.

Resolution plays a big role there. Any chance to do a 1280x1024 run?
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Today when I played Bioshock infinite I needed to go somewhere outside my house, I leaved game open (didn't press esc) and when I returned fps in game was around 40fps. Usually in that scene fps is around 120. I thought that this is because game, some bug, but I wanted to be sure so I leaved XCOM enemy within around 1 hour in game and when I returned there was a fps drop from 130 to 60fps. What could this be? Broken card? RMA?

I bet my hat you have a miner virus. When you don't touch the mouse for 5 minutes or so, it activates and starts mining coin on your GPU, for the benefit of a hacker. I had the same thing, it screwed over my 3DMark runs. It doesn't look for 3D activity, just mouse activity, so it steals away GPU from whatever may be running - game, benchmark, other GPU apps.
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