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No, it's because it has the most solid VRM with the most or second most effective cooling.
Moot point. All of the higher end cards, bar two (and even those are okay-ish), have overspecced power circuits, and I wouldn't want to push the GTR VRM to its limits because of its split phase design, as per reference cards. And I think Asus Strix has the most overkill setup this round, not that it matters.

I do like how the heatsink looks though, yes.

All of the cards are fine to run at whatever clocks stock cooling will allow to run them, if the silicon is up for it.
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No, it's because it has the most solid VRM with the most or second most effective cooling.

I'd say the strix has the most solid VRM. The Strix is so overspecced it's funny. That said the VRMs on the Nitros and MSI are fairly decent also, MSI has better cooler minus the vrm cooling. The Nitro just needs a better cooler but it's chokes and VRMs are very good.

MSI, Sapphire, Asus, and XFX are all solid cards. If you're looking for the best I'd have to give that to the Strix though.
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I'd say the strix has the most solid VRM. The Strix is so overspecced it's funny. That said the VRMs on the Nitros and MSI are fairly decent also, MSI has better cooler minus the vrm cooling.

MSI, Sapphire, Asus, and XFX are all solid cards. If you're looking for the best I'd have to give that to the Strix though.
Yeah, you're probably more likely to fry the core or melt some connectors than run into issues with VRM.
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Yeah, you're probably more likely to fry the core or melt some connectors than run into issues with VRM.

It's flat out impossible to hit Vrm issues on the Strix. It's also got points for measuring voltage built in, Core Power plane is entirely on the 8 pin with Memory fed from PCIE, etc.

It's simply the best and most Over Specd card in the lineup.

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https://youtu.be/W3QDevWleVY
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It's flat out impossible to hit Vrm issues on the Strix. It's also got points for measuring voltage built in, Core Power plane is entirely on the 8 pin with Memory fed from PCIE, etc.

It's simply the best and most Over Specd card in the lineup.

Buildzoid breakdown

https://youtu.be/W3QDevWleVY
I know mate, I've watched his videos and waded through a lot of reviews/forums when I was picking my cards smile.gif I would've loved to get the Strix to play with, but at the time they had maybe a 50-60€ premium over my Sapphire and MSI cards. Oddly enough now Strix is cheaper than both Nitro and GTR...
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I'd say the strix has the most solid VRM. The Strix is so overspecced it's funny. That said the VRMs on the Nitros and MSI are fairly decent also, MSI has better cooler minus the vrm cooling. The Nitro just needs a better cooler but it's chokes and VRMs are very good.

MSI, Sapphire, Asus, and XFX are all solid cards. If you're looking for the best I'd have to give that to the Strix though.

The Strix has issues with BIOS, like all ASUS cards of the past 5 years. Sometimes image disappears, sometimes the GPU fails to start at all, sometimes it bugs out with multiple displays. The thing about the Strix's VRM is that the core's power is physically separated from the PCI-E, for those still paranoid about the excessive PCI-E power draw issue of launch day.

Also, Strix's VRM's are on the inner side of the card, while XFX's are near the exhaust, which is better for heat management in the case.

The Strix core VRM, which IS an overkill, as you said:
https://youtu.be/W3QDevWleVY?list=PLpS0n7xxSadXWGk02NMCMLuav8vjxqvmA&t=264

The XFX core VRM, which is MUCH MORE of an overkill:
https://youtu.be/GBWs_7vRWkA?list=PLpS0n7xxSadXWGk02NMCMLuav8vjxqvmA&t=310

So you can see that the XFX is superior in almost every regard.
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Hey guys, i need your help choosing a model of RX 480, Between the MSI one prived at 229 for 1312Mhz and the GTR XFX OC at 1338 priced at 302€ (which equals 320$.) Here is a repost of the answer i made to the GTX 1060 Thread.
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Yeah that's right, 302.89€ make 320$ us..... I hate live in france for that....

I don't know which model to pick seriously... because, according to this review of the XFX GTR model, it's good, while Jayz benchmarked it, i couldn't hear the card over is voice (i'm a silent freak. i mean, not as much as choosing the slowest spinning cooler, but i don't wanna have an airplane during takeoff next to me.) i never complained about my 960 G1 gaming cooler in comparaison. which has 3 little fan on it.

the serious advantage of the XFX card is that, it's clocked 26 Mhz higher than the MSI i planned to buy, which is nothing. BUT ! it closed a bit more the gap towards the GTX 1060 frequency. And XFX got a bios switch i believe ( but i could be wrong, maybe confusing with a review of the sapphire nitro + that i saw.)


There is also this review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LDtj8vEvS8

Which confuses me even more. The lsi cooler spins slower and it resulted in equal temps between both cards, which is a good point for me Silent freak.

But if seems that the XFX model Beats the MSI one, hardly enough to justify the 73€ more i'll need to spend to get it ?
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The Strix has issues with BIOS, like all ASUS cards of the past 5 years. Sometimes image disappears, sometimes the GPU fails to start at all, sometimes it bugs out with multiple displays. The thing about the Strix's VRM is that the core's power is physically separated from the PCI-E, for those still paranoid about the excessive PCI-E power draw issue of launch day.

Also, Strix's VRM's are on the inner side of the card, while XFX's are near the exhaust, which is better for heat management in the case.

The Strix core VRM, which IS an overkill, as you said:
https://youtu.be/W3QDevWleVY?list=PLpS0n7xxSadXWGk02NMCMLuav8vjxqvmA&t=264

The XFX core VRM, which is MUCH MORE of an overkill:
https://youtu.be/GBWs_7vRWkA?list=PLpS0n7xxSadXWGk02NMCMLuav8vjxqvmA&t=310

So you can see that the XFX is superior in almost every regard.

The XFX is super temp sensitive, the Strix is equal (actually a bit more) to the XFX in output but less temp sensitive, beyond 90c the VRMs capability drops off quickly but as long as you keep it cool its fine. The strix has the advantage of being less temp sensitive, better power planes, voltage read out points, and overall is just a fantastic PCB. He flat out said in the XFX video "its not as powerful as the Strix though". You cant cherry pick here when its been agreed the Strix is OP by more than just me or Loladinas, even by buildzoid and others who know more than we do.

The GTR is a great card absolutely (and cheaper than the Stric no?), but the Strix has better power delivery and better features for overclocking. Its simply the best 480 bar none. Opinion doesnt change the observable fact of how freakishly good the Strix PCB is.

That said, id get the XFX first because it cost 50$ less than the Strix (or was).

EDIT: just checked, not anymore theres no reason not to get the Strix if you have enough for the GTR unless you hate ASUS
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Hey guys, i need your help choosing a model of RX 480, Between the MSI one prived at 229 for 1312Mhz and the GTR XFX OC at 1338 priced at 302€ (which equals 320$.) Here is a repost of the answer i made to the GTX 1060 Thread.
There's barely going to be any difference between those two cards. It's certainly not worth 70€ premium.

EDIT: and I wouldn't pay two cents for JayZs opinions
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The XFX is super temp sensitive, the Strix is equal (actually a bit more) to the XFX in output but less temp sensitive, beyond 90c the VRMs capability drops off quickly but as long as you keep it cool its fine. The strix has the advantage of being less temp sensitive, better power planes, voltage read out points, and overall is just a fantastic PCB. He flat out said in the XFX video "its not as powerful as the Strix though". You cant cherry pick here when its been agreed the Strix is OP by more than just me or Loladinas, even by buildzoid and others who know more than we do.

The GTR is a great card absolutely (and cheaper than the Stric no?), but the Strix has better power delivery and better features for overclocking. Its simply the best 480 bar none. Opinion doesnt change the observable fact of how freakishly good the Strix PCB is.

That said, id get the XFX first because it cost 50$ less than the Strix (or was).

EDIT: just checked, not anymore theres no reason not to get the Strix if you have enough for the GTR
Strix would've been even better if they had designed the heatsink a bit differently, but if you're going to seriously push it, it's probably wise to replace cooling anyway.
They're both priced roughly the same now. 248€ vs 249€ and 254€ vs 269€ (sourced from Geizhals, so in western EU) for regular and pre-overclocked versions respectively, with XFX being slightly more expensive in both cases.
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Hey guys, i need your help choosing a model of RX 480, Between the MSI one prived at 229 for 1312Mhz and the GTR XFX OC at 1338 priced at 302€ (which equals 320$.) Here is a repost of the answer i made to the GTX 1060 Thread.
There is also this review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LDtj8vEvS8

Which confuses me even more. The lsi cooler spins slower and it resulted in equal temps between both cards, which is a good point for me Silent freak.

But if seems that the XFX model Beats the MSI one, hardly enough to justify the 73€ more i'll need to spend to get it ?

Id just pick the one you like the look of better but the GTR is better between those 2 as while the MSI has good VRMS the GTR is better if you plan to overclock and if you want to volt mod the GTR would probably be easier but i assume you dont. The Gaming X i would say has a better core cooler but the VRM and core cooling is more balanced on the GTR.

Money being a factor, go MSI

Getting the Better card, buy the GTR
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770k Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Sapphire Nitro + RX 470 Gskill Ares 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Mushkin Eco3 Kingdian  Corsair LE  Lite On 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Cryorig H5 Windows 10 pro Dell S2415h Azio MK Retro 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic G Series 650w Define R5  Logitech G500s Asus Xonar DSX 
AudioAudioAudio
Monoprice Retro Heaphones Monoprice Vocal Dynamic Mic Edifier r980t  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Rk3288 Firefly  Mali t760 mp4 Ddr3 1600 
Hard DriveOS
Internal EMMC Android 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon e5649 HP z400 FirePro v4800 12gb Gkill Ripjaw 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Hitachi Ultrastar Western Digital 320gb HP High Performance Cooler Ubuntu Gnome 16.10 
PowerCase
HP z400 HP z400 
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