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Strix would've been even better if they had designed the heatsink a bit differently, but if you're going to seriously push it, it's probably wise to replace cooling anyway.
They're both priced roughly the same now. 248€ vs 249€ and 254€ vs 269€ (sourced from Geizhals, so in western EU) for regular and pre-overclocked versions respectively, with XFX being slightly more expensive in both cases.

The stock cooler on the GTR is better I agree but if talking purely on the bases of which one is the one to pick if youre going to be pushing the limit of the 480 the Strix has better core and memory VRMs and is less temp sensitive.

Stock - GTR has better cooler and really solid well build VRM and PCB

Strix is way overkill but its stock cooling is sub par compared to the GTR


ronnin426850 im not hating on the XFX GTR, I think its a fantastic card
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Id just pick the one you like the look of better but the GTR is better between those 2 as while the MSI has good VRMS the GTR is better if you plan to overclock and if you want to volt mod the GTR would probably be easier but i assume you dont. The Gaming X i would say has a better core cooler but the VRM and core cooling is more balanced on the GTR.

Money being a factor, go MSI

Getting the Better card, buy the GTR

Basically i just want to havey money well spent xD i'll probably OC, not vold modding,

So as long as it stay Silent (i had à GTX 960 G1 gaming before, never complained about the noise of this cooler.)

As long as the XFX GTR stays cool and perform best than other model, that's the most important thing for me ^^ because, ultimatly, it Will last me longer in time, be able to keep up longer against newer titles
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Basically i just want to havey money well spent xD i'll probably OC, not vold modding,

So as long as it stay Silent (i had à GTX 960 G1 gaming before, never complained about the noise of this cooler.)

As long as the XFX GTR stays cool and perform best than other model, that's the most important thing for me ^^ because, ultimatly, it Will last me longer in time, be able to keep up longer against newer titles


If you want the more solid card Id pick the GTR, it has better VRMs and good cooling. If youre looking for something to last longer and do some little bit of overclocking the GTR power delivery will do less work over its life time and likely stay cooler because its overkill. I think the GTR is worth the extra $ looking at using the card for several years.

That all said i hope you get a good card. My poor RX 470 cant do 1400mhz without black screening and 1375mhz requires ALOT more voltage so Im stuck with 1350mhz.
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If you want the more solid card Id pick the GTR, it has better VRMs and good cooling. If youre looking for something to last longer and do some little bit of overclocking the GTR power delivery will do less work over its life time and likely stay cooler because its overkill. I think the GTR is worth the extra $ looking at using the card for several years.

That all said i hope you get a good card. My poor RX 470 cant do 1400mhz without black screening and 1375mhz requires ALOT more voltage so Im stuck with 1350mhz.

Just made à quick look on amazon for the Price, MSI RX480 price tag rised by 10€ going up to 239€. (Because no stock.) I'm sure if i wait more Price Will continue to raise more... So at that point, why not go XFX... ^^
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Just made à quick look on amazon for the Price, MSI RX480 price tag rised by 10€ going up to 239€. (Because no stock.) I'm sure if i wait more Price Will continue to raise more... So at that point, why not go XFX... ^^

If the price difference isn't that big then yea go xfx thumb.gif
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If the price difference isn't that big then yea go xfx thumb.gif
You're basically recommending someone to spend 25% more for sub 1% performance difference, and saying it's not a big deal. C'mon mate...

I still think that someone who just wants to game on stock cooling and doesn't care about benching/e-peen should probably undervolt to 1000-1075mV, which depending on case temps/airflow (and of course a bit of luck) should net something like 1300MHz, and get the rest of performance from pushing VRAM (clocks/timings), which can increase perf up to like 10%. That should keep that card relatively cool and quiet, without too much potential performance lost.

But if you want to go the custom cooling route, you can go much further. It's a real fun card to play around with. So many things can be edited and tweaked. And it scales so beautifully with temperatures.
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Oh, by the way, for anyone getting or owning the Strix - look into changing your TIM, the stock one that comes with it is horrid.
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You're basically recommending someone to spend 25% more for sub 1% performance difference, and saying it's not a big deal. C'mon mate...

I still think that someone who just wants to game on stock cooling and doesn't care about benching/e-peen should probably undervolt to 1000-1075mV, which depending on case temps/airflow (and of course a bit of luck) should net something like 1300MHz, and get the rest of performance from pushing VRAM (clocks/timings), which can increase perf up to like 10%. That should keep that card relatively cool and quiet, without too much potential performance lost.

But if you want to go the custom cooling route, you can go much further. It's a real fun card to play around with. So many things can be edited and tweaked. And it scales so beautifully with temperatures.


All i want is to game fine on stock cooler yes, but still be able to OC (my case, a Define S, have 4 phanteks PH-F140SP fans 3 intake, 1 exhaust.)

As far as CPU cooling, Phanteks TC14-PE cpu delidded - relided with CLP applied OC to 4.9Ghz.

Now, i'll certainly OC my GPU as well even tho i have more experience Nvidia side.

I live in france, so here is the amazon pricing for various RX 480 brands, : https://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?__mk_fr_FR=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=rx+480+8gb

you can see for exemple that the ASUS Strix is priced at 286€ seems to have a a problem with the default thermal paste, a bit better VRM and Vcore build quality, but no bios switch. (and some useless fan headers and all that, rgb headers which if i could buy a shoved down version of all that i will go for it but i cant.

MSI one is the cheapest one but also the weakest built between the xfx and asus one. + ASUS model and MSI one are out of stock.

And i don't know if in Amazon US it does that but i found quite surprising that when a components is low in stock prices are dropped. I had my I7 6700K at 324€ where as usual it was near 400€ at that time.

Now, amazon have only 2 samples of the XFX GTR BE which is priced less than the OC XXX variant of the same model which is clocked slower..
MSI and ASUS model are out of stock and oh, prices raised... It's kinda blurry for me know....

So i hear all of you, i watched i think maybe 2 entiere days of reviews about MSI and XFX models. + PCB analysis by Actually Hardcore Overclock.

And im between all of that like "WTH, which way should i go." biggrin.gif
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You're basically recommending someone to spend 25% more for sub 1% performance difference, and saying it's not a big deal. C'mon mate...

I still think that someone who just wants to game on stock cooling and doesn't care about benching/e-peen should probably undervolt to 1000-1075mV, which depending on case temps/airflow (and of course a bit of luck) should net something like 1300MHz, and get the rest of performance from pushing VRAM (clocks/timings), which can increase perf up to like 10%. That should keep that card relatively cool and quiet, without too much potential performance lost.

But if you want to go the custom cooling route, you can go much further. It's a real fun card to play around with. So many things can be edited and tweaked. And it scales so beautifully with temperatures.

He said the MSI one was out of stock and the price went up. He also said he was wanting to use it for several years and to do some overclocking. I didn't just recommend the XFX, I told him previously if price is the concern to go with the MSI but considering you can't buy an item that's not in stock, the price went up, and quality is also a concern I don't see a reason not to get the XFX.

It's the one I'd trust with a higher chance to get longer use out of even though that's still up to luck how long it lasts. It being more over built than the MSI gives it a heads up in longevity and OCing.
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