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Hey RX480/470/460 owners,

We are having our monthly Foldathon from Monday 20th - Wednesday 22nd - 12noon EST.
Would you consider putting all that power to a good cause for those 2 days? If so, come sign up and fold with us - see attached link.

March 2017 Foldathon



To get started:

1.Get a passkey (allows for speed bonus) - need a valid email address
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py


2.Download the folding program:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


Enter your folding name (mine is the same as my OCN name)
Enter your passkey
Enter Team OCN number - 37726


later
lanofsong

 

@Hequaqua let's do this :sonic:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lanofsong View Post

Hey RX480/470/460 owners,

We are having our monthly Foldathon from Monday 20th - Wednesday 22nd - 12noon EST.
Would you consider putting all that power to a good cause for those 2 days? If so, come sign up and fold with us - see attached link.

March 2017 Foldathon



To get started:

1.Get a passkey (allows for speed bonus) - need a valid email address
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py


2.Download the folding program:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


Enter your folding name (mine is the same as my OCN name)
Enter your passkey
Enter Team OCN number - 37726


later
lanofsong

@Hequaqua
 let's do this sonic.gif

I'm in, like i was for team BBQ wink.gif
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I'm in, like i was for team BBQ wink.gif

 

 

Team BBQ - FTW

 

 

BTW - You can apply for your 2017 FFW badge and any folding point badges.

 

Request your Folding Milestone Badge

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Originally Posted by lanofsong View Post

Hey RX480/470/460 owners,

We are having our monthly Foldathon from Monday 20th - Wednesday 22nd - 12noon EST.
Would you consider putting all that power to a good cause for those 2 days? If so, come sign up and fold with us - see attached link.

March 2017 Foldathon



To get started:

1.Get a passkey (allows for speed bonus) - need a valid email address
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py


2.Download the folding program:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


Enter your folding name (mine is the same as my OCN name)
Enter your passkey
Enter Team OCN number - 37726


later
lanofsong

@Hequaqua
 let's do this sonic.gif

Whats folding tongue.gif little 480 does not match my 1080 but does decent enough.
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Everything counts in in the FAT - and the 480 puts out nice PPD :thumbsups

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Sadly I lack the block for my 480 or I would be hopping to it to get mine Folding in time for FAT. So not FAT for me this year. But next year I will have Ryzen 7 1800x and RX 480 8gb madly folding away. biggrin.gif

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Hey guys, i was playing Battleborn last night with my XFX 480 GTR and i experienced like micro stuttering every seconds ~ my FPS were not stable at all but i was above 60 fps.

here is the MSI Afterburner graph.




As you can see, temp wise i'm fine.

But here is the problem, you can clearly see that the GPU utilisation is nuts.

Micro stutters happened on Helliion as well at the time i had it.

It turn out that disabling freesync on my Iiyama GB2488HSU-B2 and in the Radeon software solved the problem on Hellion and Blackwake.

Now i was wondering, what the ... cause that ? because i have plenty of horse power to maintain 144FPS stable on Battleborn.

Is it caused by some games who don't support freesync ? i thought, correct me if i'm wrong, that Freesync technology was only concerning monitor and GPUs.. ?


Second question, on the graph you can see a max temp of 75°C. (because i played a good amount of Escape from Tarkov before.)

What is the max safe operating temperature for a XFX GTR 480 ? 80°C ? same as Nvidia cards ?
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Originally Posted by OxygeenHD View Post

Hey guys, i was playing Battleborn last night with my XFX 480 GTR and i experienced like micro stuttering every seconds ~ my FPS were not stable at all but i was above 60 fps.

here is the MSI Afterburner graph.


As you can see, temp wise i'm fine.

But here is the problem, you can clearly see that the GPU utilisation is nuts.

Micro stutters happened on Helliion as well at the time i had it.

It turn out that disabling freesync on my Iiyama GB2488HSU-B2 and in the Radeon software solved the problem on Hellion and Blackwake.

Now i was wondering, what the ... cause that ? because i have plenty of horse power to maintain 144FPS stable on Battleborn.

Is it caused by some games who don't support freesync ? i thought, correct me if i'm wrong, that Freesync technology was only concerning monitor and GPUs.. ?


Second question, on the graph you can see a max temp of 75°C. (because i played a good amount of Escape from Tarkov before.)

What is the max safe operating temperature for a XFX GTR 480 ? 80°C ? same as Nvidia cards ?

I am not an expert on freesync just made own yesterday and still learning but I did come across some posts on how certain setting combinations will have all kinds of adverse affects with freesync from a lead AMD tech person. Here is the link and will post what he stated.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4ypw5k/freesync_is_so_fcking_awesome/d6zl13v/?context=3

This
"AMD_Robert Technical Marketing 30 points 6 months ago
Do not use any sort of frame capping with FreeSync. The frame time analysis algorithms that govern FreeSync, FRTC or other methods will conflict and break both solutions. It's unnecessary. Here's why:
The only time you'd want to turn off vsync with FreeSync is if the app's FPS can go way above your monitor's max refresh and you want the lowest possible input latency at the expense of a little tearing at high framerates. FRTC is the antithesis of this, so it doesn't make sense to use FRTC in this case.

If you're not trying to get the lowest possible input latency, or the app's FPS stays inside your monitor's DRR window on the regular, then leaving vsync enabled will cap your framerate anyways. FRTC is redundant.

FRTC is for people with regular ol' monitors who are playing low-demand games running in the hundreds of FPS, which just burns power and runs the fan faster than necessary."

and This are the big things:

AMD_Robert Technical Marketing 14 points 4 months ago*
FREESYNC WITH VSYNC

If vsync is enabled, it is only active when the FPS is above or below your monitor's refresh rate range.

If FPS is below, the monitor has no choice but to use vsync in the double or triple-buffer mode you've set. This will avoid tearing, but add input latency.

If the FPS is above, the GPU will reject frames ("FPS cap") to keep the application inside the FreeSync window. It will enforce smoothness. You won't get the lowest possible input latency due to rejected frames, but no extra latency is being added.

When your game is in the FreeSync window, this is the lowest possible input latency.

FREESYNC WITHOUT VSYNC
If you really care about input latency, then you can turn vsync off.

If the app is inside the FreeSync window, FreeSync is active. This is the lowest possible input latency.

If the app is below the FreeSync range, monitor will run at max refresh until the app's FPS gets back inside the DRR window. You will experience tearing, but no frames will be buffered or held as with vsync.

If the app is above the FreeSync range, monitor will run at max refresh and your FPS can go however high it will. This sustains the lowest possible input latency because no frames are being buffered, held or rejected as with vsync. You will experience some tearing until the FPS falls back inside the FreeSync window and FreeSync resumes.

IF YOUR MONITOR IS COMPATIBLE WITH FREESYNC LFC

If your monitor has a sufficiently wide range to support our Low Framerate Compensation feature, this supersedes your vsync setting. It has lower input latency, no tearing, and no vsync stutter. It's much better than vsync.
tl;dr:
Most people want to leave FreeSync + Vsync enabled.

PROS: GPU won't waste power/heat/noise on unused frames, game forced inside the FreeSync range as often as possible, no stuttering, no tearing.

CONS: Lowest possible input latency will not be achieved if app goes outside of FreeSync range. Vsync stutter possible when app is below FreeSync window.

If you're a stickler for mouse latency, use FreeSync + vsync OFF.

PROS: No stuttering/tearing inside FreeSync window, lowest possible latency at all times.

CONS: Tearing possible when app leaves FreeSync window

IF app FPS < min_refresh THEN Low Framerate Compensation (LFC) supersedes vsync.

I am not sure if this will help you or not. I just did not realize that all these do not work well together.
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I am not an expert on freesync just made own yesterday and still learning but I did come across some posts on how certain setting combinations will have all kinds of adverse affects with freesync from a lead AMD tech person. Here is the link and will post what he stated.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4ypw5k/freesync_is_so_fcking_awesome/d6zl13v/?context=3

This
"AMD_Robert Technical Marketing 30 points 6 months ago
Do not use any sort of frame capping with FreeSync. The frame time analysis algorithms that govern FreeSync, FRTC or other methods will conflict and break both solutions. It's unnecessary. Here's why:
The only time you'd want to turn off vsync with FreeSync is if the app's FPS can go way above your monitor's max refresh and you want the lowest possible input latency at the expense of a little tearing at high framerates. FRTC is the antithesis of this, so it doesn't make sense to use FRTC in this case.

If you're not trying to get the lowest possible input latency, or the app's FPS stays inside your monitor's DRR window on the regular, then leaving vsync enabled will cap your framerate anyways. FRTC is redundant.

FRTC is for people with regular ol' monitors who are playing low-demand games running in the hundreds of FPS, which just burns power and runs the fan faster than necessary."

and This are the big things:

AMD_Robert Technical Marketing 14 points 4 months ago*
FREESYNC WITH VSYNC

If vsync is enabled, it is only active when the FPS is above or below your monitor's refresh rate range.

If FPS is below, the monitor has no choice but to use vsync in the double or triple-buffer mode you've set. This will avoid tearing, but add input latency.

If the FPS is above, the GPU will reject frames ("FPS cap") to keep the application inside the FreeSync window. It will enforce smoothness. You won't get the lowest possible input latency due to rejected frames, but no extra latency is being added.

When your game is in the FreeSync window, this is the lowest possible input latency.

FREESYNC WITHOUT VSYNC
If you really care about input latency, then you can turn vsync off.

If the app is inside the FreeSync window, FreeSync is active. This is the lowest possible input latency.

If the app is below the FreeSync range, monitor will run at max refresh until the app's FPS gets back inside the DRR window. You will experience tearing, but no frames will be buffered or held as with vsync.

If the app is above the FreeSync range, monitor will run at max refresh and your FPS can go however high it will. This sustains the lowest possible input latency because no frames are being buffered, held or rejected as with vsync. You will experience some tearing until the FPS falls back inside the FreeSync window and FreeSync resumes.

IF YOUR MONITOR IS COMPATIBLE WITH FREESYNC LFC

If your monitor has a sufficiently wide range to support our Low Framerate Compensation feature, this supersedes your vsync setting. It has lower input latency, no tearing, and no vsync stutter. It's much better than vsync.
tl;dr:
Most people want to leave FreeSync + Vsync enabled.

PROS: GPU won't waste power/heat/noise on unused frames, game forced inside the FreeSync range as often as possible, no stuttering, no tearing.

CONS: Lowest possible input latency will not be achieved if app goes outside of FreeSync range. Vsync stutter possible when app is below FreeSync window.

If you're a stickler for mouse latency, use FreeSync + vsync OFF.

PROS: No stuttering/tearing inside FreeSync window, lowest possible latency at all times.

CONS: Tearing possible when app leaves FreeSync window

IF app FPS < min_refresh THEN Low Framerate Compensation (LFC) supersedes vsync.

I am not sure if this will help you or not. I just did not realize that all these do not work well together.



On battleborn, unlimited framecap, no Vsync, Freesync activated, same story.

Disabling it, put everything in max, i got 300 fps, so it's not a "horsepower" problem.
Edited by OxygeenHD - 3/19/17 at 8:24am
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Could be a bad driver. Have you tried backing down to the last driver prior to the last update? Cause that's where I would go with any card if I were to see microstuttering. Ate you only gaming? Do you have apps running in the background? thinking.gif

It's a bad habit but I tend to leave browser windows open when I am gaming. Skyrim tends to stutter when I do this so I am forced to close them otherwise it tends to overload my 4790 when things get warm. CPU seems to max out and then I notice it even more in open world enviroment. Not so much in cave/dungeon environment. So maybe what could be happening is your CPU is being taxed to the max. Not really sure since I am still gaming on the old 5770 and the 480 is on the shelf due to lack of a quality PSU to pair with it. XFX says 550w minimum. Dell XPS 8700 is a 430w PSU. I won't even attempt the 480 before replacing the PSU. biggrin.gif

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ASUS DRW-24B1ST  Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Swiftech 6950/6870 GPU Heatsink Monsoon 1/2"x5/8" PETG White Hardline tubing. 
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Monsoon Economy Hardline fittings EK Dual DDC V2 top Swiftech Pump DDC-1T (2) Liquid Fusion V Double helix Reservoir 
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Yate Loon 120x20 (D12SM-12C) Medium Speed Silen... EK Supreme HF Classified EK Thermosphere GPU Block EK Thermosphere GPU Block 
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Win7 64 bit Ultimate OEM Asus VH222H Black HDMI Widescreen Logitech the OCZ went buhbye adios. Don't know ... Corsair CMPSU HX 850w Modular 
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HAF 932 Logitech g9x COOLER MASTER Weapon of Choice: M4 Duramesh Pad Logitech X-240 2.1 speakers 
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Sunbeam Rheosmart 3 Creative X-Fi 
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