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No throttling on the GPU during the graphics tests. The only place that looks like throttling is at the beginning of the CPU test. What I find odd is that is also where I see the max voltage. There isn't even any load on the GPU. You can see the voltage throughout the graphics tests are like 1.219 max, but during the CPU test it spikes to 1.238. Temps were max at 65°.



Here are a comparisons of the two runs, back-to-back. One with Relive(Youtube). The second one ran right after that.




To me, I see no throttling that would/should affect the score, especially none that would increase the score by +300 points.

I'm open to suggestions though. biggrin.gif
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No throttling on the GPU during the graphics tests. The only place that looks like throttling is at the beginning of the CPU test. What I find odd is that is also where I see the max voltage. There isn't even any load on the GPU. You can see the voltage throughout the graphics tests are like 1.219 max, but during the CPU test it spikes to 1.238. Temps were max at 65°.



Here are a comparisons of the two runs, back-to-back. One with Relive(Youtube). The second one ran right after that.




To me, I see no throttling that would/should affect the score, especially none that would increase the score by +300 points.

I'm open to suggestions though. biggrin.gif

You were experiencing throttle when pushing for 1500-1525MHz with only 25% Power Limit. Look that you're getting around the same performance with 1450/2000MHz stable than 1500/2250MHz with thorttling.

Btw, HWINFO doesn't show properly gpu clocks, it cannot detect real throttling because is behaves with DPM states, use MSI Afterburner monitoring with 100ms refresh for that.
Edited by Ansau - 3/24/17 at 4:33am
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I can buy into HWiNFO not showing throttling. I haven't tried Wattman to get to 1500+ yet.

Here is 1450/2000 +50 PL Auto Voltage via Wattman. The voltage maxes out at 1.225 during the CPU test. Otherwise it seemed to be around 1.200/1.206v, temps maxed at 65°.

Again, the card is not throttling, at least not at 1450/2000:

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@Ansau

This look more normal? biggrin.gif



Again, the max voltage is always during the CPU test...is there a reason why? I mean there is no load on the GPU. You can see that there appears to be no throttling in GPU-Z. I set the refresh rate to a tenth of a second. This was using AB. Wattman won't let me increase the voltage past 1175v. I tried setting everything in AB and monitor it via Wattman, but it seems Wattman didn't want to recognize the AB settings.

This was +96v +50 Power limit 1500/2000.

I'll keep messing with it some more.....I'm a bit new to OC'ing on the AMD side, especially using Wattman.
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Again, the max voltage is always during the CPU test...is there a reason why?
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I'm not sure that even makes sense, at least to me. headscratch.gif

Why in the world would the card even need that voltage? It's not under load, and it only is drawing about 15w.

Could it be because the AMD cards use A-Sync? thinking.gif

Just trying to make sense of it. I mean, it doesn't seem to hurt the scores at all. I'm just trying to figure out the AMD side of the equation....been on the Green side far too long I think. biggrin.gif
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Well....while my son's rig was available I decided to snatch his RX470 and throw it in my rig with the RX480. I would have to say.....not bad. biggrin.gif

His card is 1270/1750@stock. I knew that it could do around 1320ish or so. My card is 1338/2000. I figured I would give a little OC to both.

I added +25 Power limit to both cards, and +25 on the Voltage. I set the fans on both to 60%. I put the RX480@1400/2000 and the RX470@1300/1800.

The first grab is GPU-Z and Time Spy:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1441050

The second one is Firestrike with GPU-Z showing both of the runs. They were ran back-to-back:
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http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12112163

I also ran Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. I think those were at the stock speeds with +10 on the power limit and fans@60%.

Ultra Preset:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Very High Preset:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The only real issue, if you want to call it that, was when Firestrike was loading. My second monitor would go black. I kind of freaked out....so I turned it off and on again. I think if I had just left it, it would have came back on. It seemed to happen when the tests were loading. Also, no memory errors.

Other than that....temps were a bit high 69° on the top card, but the VRM's stayed around 56-58° I think. I didn't have HWiNFO running to see exactly. When I get another chance I'll throw it in there and play some BF1 or something. Now that I think I about it...I should have loaded up DOOM in Vulkan! Crap! lmao
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@Ansau

This look more normal? biggrin.gif



Again, the max voltage is always during the CPU test...is there a reason why? I mean there is no load on the GPU. You can see that there appears to be no throttling in GPU-Z. I set the refresh rate to a tenth of a second. This was using AB. Wattman won't let me increase the voltage past 1175v. I tried setting everything in AB and monitor it via Wattman, but it seems Wattman didn't want to recognize the AB settings.

This was +96v +50 Power limit 1500/2000.

I'll keep messing with it some more.....I'm a bit new to OC'ing on the AMD side, especially using Wattman.

This looks promissing!!! Now that you have achieve 1500MHz start playing with memory, there's much to gain.
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This looks promissing!!! Now that you have achieve 1500MHz start playing with memory, there's much to gain.

Well.....I wish the memory would scale a little better. Here are runs at 1500 with the different memory clocks:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I also ran it at 2200mhz. It continued to regress..... frown.gif

I extended the overclocking limits in AB. The memory will run at 2600mhz.

1500/2600
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18842357

I finally did manage to beat the 4661 graphics score and my overall by a little. I set my CPU to 4.2ghz and OC my system ram to 2200mhz. This is the run I made. It's at 1510/2160 max voltage/power limit:



http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1444658

I tried 1520/1525...it was a bit of hit or miss....It made it through at 1520, but I got the old "time measurement" error. Invalid result. I never could get 1525/2160....sometimes it would crash during the first test...sometimes the second. frown.gif

Oh well....I'm pretty happy with the card. I mean, I'm not going to be running those speeds for every day usage anyway.... thumb.gif
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Just got a Powercolor RX 480 4 GB Red Dragon with the single fan. It has a 5% power-limit which threw me off a bit but after doing some research, it seems to be due to powercolor cheaping out on vrm/mosfets etc...

What surprised me though is that I had to reduce my core voltage to achieve higher clocks. Watercooling might have also helped here with max 44C at 1350mhz. Obviously, this indicates that there's a hard power limit but i'm really happy with a -36mv 1350/2000 core/mem respectively OC. I was hoping for 1450 but I guess I'd have to get an XFX GTR to hit those clocks. My chip has 8gb ram module but flashing the unlocked power color BIOS bricked my card and I had to flash it back. Little hairy moment but given my experience with such a situation, I knew how to get around it.


Edited by Tobiman - 3/25/17 at 9:03am
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