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post #801 of 4365
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Originally Posted by lightwhite View Post

Hi all, is the custom 480 worth waiting another month or two( not available in my region) or should I just get the reference model ? I mean people are recommending the 8-pin versions, but now that the power issue is fixed, shouldn't the reference model be alright in a well ventilated case or are there some doubts as to long term reliabilty ? just wish to know smile.gif

The "power issue" it's with motherboard with pci-express 1.0 very old and obsolete - with motherboard with pci-express 2.0 or more it's not a problem, so 6 pins or 8 will be the same - About buy a reference card or a custom, deppends of your idea of overclock - If you dont want to do overclock buy a reference if you want to do it, buy a custom - It's not about power it's about temp, the reference card its very limited in heat dissipation.-

In my particular case I buy 2 reference card, and put a custom water - so.. 6 pins, two cards at the same time, pci express 2.0 overclock to 1400 mhz and 1.20 volts in the two cards - No power issues, no burn motherboard or things like that.-
Edited by GecKoTDF - 8/23/16 at 8:20am
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post #803 of 4365
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Originally Posted by GecKoTDF View Post

The "power issue" it's with motherboard with pci-express 1.0 very old and obsolete - with motherboard with pci-express 2.0 or more it's not a problem, so 6 pins or 8 will be the same - About buy a reference card or a custom, deppends of your idea of overclock - If you dont want to do overclock buy a reference if you want to do it, buy a custom - It's not about power it's about temp, the reference card its very limited in heat dissipation.-

In my particular case I buy 2 reference card, and put a custom water - so.. 6 pins, two cards at the same time, pci express 2.0 overclock to 1400 mhz and 1.20 volts in the two cards - No power issues, no burn motherboard or things like that.-

I see, then I should be fine with my mobo. I don't really know whether I'll be overclocking it in the long run or not, are the gains from doing so worth the risk with this particular card ? say 10-15fps gains ?
post #804 of 4365
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Originally Posted by lightwhite View Post

I see, then I should be fine with my mobo. I don't really know whether I'll be overclocking it in the long run or not, are the gains from doing so worth the risk with this particular card ? say 10-15fps gains ?

Well risk there are any - High temp start to automatic cut of performance so, if you try to overclock the reference will not see a good improvement because the temperature.-
About gains of overclock everything its relative of the game and API example DX 11 its one and DX 12 its other - The resolution its important too - But for example you can get 5 or 8 fps - Deppends in my case I put a AIO water solution, to get a good overclock and low noise.-
But if you are not a fanatic just buy a reference card, ignore the overclock, and enjoy, in a few months you can buy another RX 480 reference probably more cheaper do a Crossfire, and have a very good improve of performance, add this to the maduration of drivers.-
post #805 of 4365
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Originally Posted by GecKoTDF View Post

Well risk there are any - High temp start to automatic cut of performance so, if you try to overclock the reference will not see a good improvement because the temperature.-
About gains of overclock everything its relative of the game and API example DX 11 its one and DX 12 its other - The resolution its important too - But for example you can get 5 or 8 fps - Deppends in my case I put a AIO water solution, to get a good overclock and low noise.-
But if you are not a fanatic just buy a reference card, ignore the overclock, and enjoy, in a few months you can buy another RX 480 reference probably more cheaper do a Crossfire, and have a very good improve of performance, add this to the maduration of drivers.-

Well yes I'm not a fanatic I just want the card to perform good and not die on me so I don't think I will overclock it much or at all if it's around 8fps gains. Thank you for the help smile.gif I think the reference model should serve me just fine, never tried multi gpu setup, but I'll see about it in the future.
post #806 of 4365
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Originally Posted by Echoa View Post

Red Devil imo also, powercolor did a very good job
I'm not sure they did a very good job since the cards can be killed by raising power limit and running furmark...
Something for me certainly unexpected coming from 280x that didn't even trigger power limit at default and furmark ran fine 75-77C at max clocks. Which is a 250W card not 150W like 480...

This endless throttling on newer cards and issues due to insufficient cooling are disappointing.

I would lead toward MSI or XFX but it's hard to tell since only so few reviews exist and almost no one owns the cards due to pricing and availability.
post #807 of 4365
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

I'm not sure they did a very good job since the cards can be killed by raising power limit and running furmark...
Something for me certainly unexpected coming from 280x that didn't even trigger power limit at default and furmark ran fine 75-77C at max clocks. Which is a 250W card not 150W like 480...

This endless throttling on newer cards and issues due to insufficient cooling are disappointing.

I would lead toward MSI or XFX but it's hard to tell since only so few reviews exist and almost no one owns the cards due to pricing and availability.

It is just a middle price card, performance is around same as a $165 rx470, no one would spend like $100 on cooling for a $165 graphic card.
post #808 of 4365
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Originally Posted by greytoad View Post

XFS's back plate vents the back of the gpu. I think their custom card has holes behind the gpu at least.

Yes, XFX has passive cooling through the back plate (which is plastic). Another thing I found incredibly interesting about the XFX RX 480 GTR is that the black plate used to cool the memory... is just black plastic. I kid you not.

You can see it here from a picture I took while experimenting with the XFX LED:



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Originally Posted by greytoad View Post

Sapphire puts a cut out behind the gpu I think on the Nitro. Probably wise.

They also redirect cool air from the fans behind the backplate, so there is always airflow - not passive at all. You can actually feel air coming through that hole with the fans running fairly quick. Some of the air probably makes it all the way down to the motherboard as well. I really like the Nitro+ design.
post #809 of 4365
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

I'm not sure they did a very good job since the cards can be killed by raising power limit and running furmark...
Something for me certainly unexpected coming from 280x that didn't even trigger power limit at default and furmark ran fine 75-77C at max clocks. Which is a 250W card not 150W like 480...

This endless throttling on newer cards and issues due to insufficient cooling are disappointing.

I would lead toward MSI or XFX but it's hard to tell since only so few reviews exist and almost no one owns the cards due to pricing and availability.

Why would you run furmark anyway? XP it's been able to kill other cards too and if it's killing them it's probably not throttling enough like it should. Saying its not a good card because you can kill it by torturing it till it gives out seems silly to me. I haven't used furmark since my 8800gts 512 since even then the opinion seemed to be that furmark was card murder and there are better ways to test
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post #810 of 4365
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Originally Posted by looncraz View Post

Yes, XFX has passive cooling through the back plate (which is plastic). Another thing I found incredibly interesting about the XFX RX 480 GTR is that the black plate used to cool the memory... is just black plastic. I kid you not.

You can see it here from a picture I took while experimenting with the XFX LED:


They also redirect cool air from the fans behind the backplate, so there is always airflow - not passive at all. You can actually feel air coming through that hole with the fans running fairly quick. Some of the air probably makes it all the way down to the motherboard as well. I really like the Nitro+ design.

I wonder what the thermal properties are of covering ram with a plastic "heat spreader." lol That's weird. I'll take another look at the Nitro. I just want a reference pcb for a normal price as a temp replacement before I RMA with Sapphire. Gaming is one of the few things that keeps me sane. I figured the egg would get some in today, but no email notifications went out. I have free shipping with newegg for this year. As I said I get banding in shadows and aliasing artifacts in a couple of applications even on stock. So there's something off about my card. It's noticeable and impacts my pleasure in gaming. T-Rex is the most noticeable followed by my only two dx12 games. There's some weird shimmering and flashing of some shadows and textures here and there in the dx12 games. Witcher 3 and several dx11 games are rock solid fine. It just depends on if the game hits whatever function or address is messed up or not.
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