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post #1 of 14
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I am completely new to WC, but i read a great deal about it. I recently ordered the EK-Kit x360, should be delivered in 2 weeks (out of stock atm mad.gif) gave me some time to think:
Would like to make a drain. According to my calculations, if i do this the "right way" with EK parts this will cost me quite much. I need a T splitter (8 euro) + 2x comp fitting (10 euro) + extender (4 euro) + ball vale (18 euro). and then i did not even count the plug and a bit of hose. I think 40 euro's is a lot, considering i bought the kit new for 330 euro. That is 12% of the kit's value, significant.

Sooooo i decided to go look for non EK Parts to make a comparison. Turns out the same functional result (easy draining, without pulling hoses) can be achieved MUCH cheaper by getting this thingy, that has fittings included and adding a (cheap) valve and plug to that.

or even getting this one, with just a cap and no valve

This drain will not only be the lowest part in the loop (duh) i will position it so, that it is out of sight, so it cannot leak on anything AND it does not have to look good, just be functional.
Now finally two questions:

1. what would you guys recommend i do? the full pull insanely expensive EK option, the T splitter integrated fitting and adding a valve to that, or the cheapass splitter with screw off cap?
2. Considering the cheaper (heranke) T splitter with fittings: this is made of MS (mild steel?) nickel plated... will that go well with the kit?


PS I am aware quality parts are expensive, i am an engineer myself. This is not intended to bash EK. But i also realise that in the unlikely event of springing a leak, i will not have damage, just a wet floor.
Edited by MaddogMcCree - 7/14/16 at 6:40am
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I to am an engineer (or was during my career) and this is the cheapest, safest way I found.

Put a 1/2" inch plastic tee at the lowest point in the loop and run a 1/2" tube up higher than the highest part of the loop. Attach a piece of Velcro to the tube (Zip Tie?) and hide it away somewhere. Stuff a marble into the end of the tube to seal it. This setup also functions as a water level monitor.

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thx, that really IS a nice budget solution... though i see a risk of the upwards pointing hose coming loose, ball getting out... and then spilling somewhere unpredictable. Thanks for your advice on plastic t's they are A LOT cheaper indeed. I however am still interested in an anwser to the second question... somehow that option appeals to me most... as long as it won't interfere/cause corrosion and people don't say i should not take it because of this or that reason...
post #4 of 14
Do you have a micro center near you? They have cheap T valves or do you have another port on your reservoir and run a line into something like this?

They sell this otherplaces. I don't don't if that store is still open. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2275/ex-tub-14/12_ID_UV_Reactive_Leakproof_T_Fitting.html?tl=g30c499s745&id=tdDtkchq
Edited by eaglesfan398 - 7/14/16 at 10:09am
post #5 of 14
It doesn't usually pay to go cheap with water cooling IMO. That said, you don't have to break the bank either.

Easiest way would be to come off another port that you may just have plugged with some tube and a fitting at the end to seal it. Valve's aren't 100% necessary. You could also use a drain/fill port mounted into the side or bottom of your case. Something like This. When you want to drain the loop, just pull the threaded plug and let it drain into a bucket, or tip the case on the side a bit so you can pull the plug without water coming out, then attach a bit of hose with a fitting at one end to the port to allow you to direct the water easier.

If you're going to go with a plastic T, just make sure your barbs are clamped real well. I've had leaks with similar plastic T's before where over time the tubing slipped off. Your mileage may vary.
post #6 of 14
PLASTIC petcocks in between the hose/lines and radiator ports
1 spout up, for fill
1 spout down for drain

short piece of hose on each spout, lets you handle the open liquid outside the case

use a horse syringe form a vet, 4-8 ounces, to fill thru top hose

bottom hose drain into a pot/bowl


they close those petcocks pretty tight,
SO before installing, use a wrench to open it, then close back, hand tight
after assemablly when ya ready to fill, and later when you want to drain, you won't need any tools
post #7 of 14
BTW
they come in various sizes and materials
i suggest plastic for the sealability and weight savings
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BTW
they come in various sizes and materials
i suggest plastic for the sealability and weight savings
The only problem is that they're big and ugly.
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I mean, I just have a T at the bottom of a radiator, with some soft tubing and a cap. It's not incredible, but it gets the job done and stops me from spilling coolant (mostly... lol). I just undo the cap, point it into a jug, and then open the top of my resevoir. I just used a cheap M/M Rotary, cheap T-Block, like 6in of tube, and a plug with a cap. Probably under $20.
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post #10 of 14
LL

Drain parts from store with central heating hydraulics.
No leak so far.
Total cost for the drain was 5-6 Euro.

Teflon to secure sealing in threads can be seen in both sides of the valve
My loop has changed since that photo, and it will change again in the near future.
I will add a GPU with WC and "hide" the drain.

Regarding the suggested plastic T fittings

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_146874388209514&key=7777bc3c17029328d03146e0ed767841&libId=iqqbzu4d01000kb5000DApm12a9j1&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overclock.net%2Fforums%2Fposts%2Fadd%2FthreadId%2F1605875&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frozencpu.com%2Fproducts%2F2275%2Fex-tub-14%2F12_ID_UV_Reactive_Leakproof_T_Fitting.html%3Ftl%3Dg30c499s745%26id%3DtdDtkchq&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overclock.net%2Fforums%2Fposts%2Fadd%2FthreadId%2F1605875&title=Reply%20to%20Saving%20some%20money%20on%20drain%20-%20is%20this%20viable%3F&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frozencpu.com%2Fproducts%2F2275%2Fex-tub-14%2F12_ID_UV_Reactive_Leakproof_T_Fitting.html%3Ftl%3Dg30c499s745%26amp%3Bid%3DtdDtkchq

I have used them in applications other than PC WC. 1 out of 2 they will leak and that is not fixable even with teflon.
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