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After reading everyone's arguments here, from an outsiders perspective - I am more along the lines that valve knew about this but never did anything because they indirectly benefitted one way or another. The only reason they decided to do anything was simply do to being called out. That being said, it's no different from Nissan GTR's launch control debacle or more recently VW's emission cheats.

Apparently a lot of manufacturers cheat on emissions frown.gif
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It's abhorrent that the YouTubers did such a thing to begin with, but I also don't believe Valve had no knowledge of these things going on.
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I don't see how or why skin gambling is such a big deal or why people are all bent around the axle over it... I read an article at PC Gamer and I still don't understand...
I understand things like buying premium vehicles or weapons in F2P games like World of Tanks / Warships, Blacklight Retribution, etc..

But buying / gambling on a weapon skin?

The items have monetary value due to demand and rarity - which can be traded or sold for cash from 3rd party sites or escrows.

It became a big problem when:

1) The owners of these gambling sites turned out to be some very famous social media personalities with hundreds of thousands to millions of viewers/followers whom were promoting it in their channels/outlets telling their mostly underage fans to go gamble on it with out disclosing that they were actual owners of those gambling sites. These owners were showing videos or streams of themselves winning big and some time losing - when it didn't matter because they were winning/losing their own money on their own gambling sites.

2) Underage kids gambling on these sites.

3) Match fixing in professional games for these items of monetary value.
 
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People are still going to gamble, just without the API. Now frankly I think a safe site is WAYYY better than some random pub dude.

Basically they made it more sketchy and probably toxic with this move. Cause a person is going to bet if they want and games like cs:go are full of ADULTS.

I'd say if your child can't handle things like this you can always monitor the internet. Because that's reality, unlike xbox that's fully uncensored immature adults. Even if you stop gambling is that really a good place for an easily influenced child? Common, that shouldn't be an argument.
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People are still going to gamble, just without the API. Now frankly I think a safe site is WAYYY better than some random pub dude.

Basically they made it more sketchy and probably toxic with this move. Cause a person is going to bet if they want and games like cs:go are full of ADULTS.

I'd say if your child can't handle things like this you can always monitor the internet. Because that's reality, unlike xbox that's fully uncensored immature adults. Even if you stop gambling is that really a good place for an easily influenced child? Common, that shouldn't be an argument.

They sent the cease and desist letter to Valve which imo, was one of the clean sites. Similarly with CSGOWild
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People are still going to gamble, just without the API. Now frankly I think a safe site is WAYYY better than some random pub dude.

Basically they made it more sketchy and probably toxic with this move. Cause a person is going to bet if they want and games like cs:go are full of ADULTS.

I'd say if your child can't handle things like this you can always monitor the internet. Because that's reality, unlike xbox that's fully uncensored immature adults. Even if you stop gambling is that really a good place for an easily influenced child? Common, that shouldn't be an argument.

Gambling is regulated because quite a few people get hooked. It's generally a mental health issue for the most part(and a cut for officials). Guarantee you have a close relative with a gambling issue.

Not to mention the idea of people gambling on CS GO is ridiculous in it's own right.
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Gambling is regulated because quite a few people get hooked. It's generally a mental health issue for the most part(and a cut for officials). Guarantee you have a close relative with a gambling issue.

Not to mention the idea of people gambling on CS GO is ridiculous in it's own right.

The game already has a legal gambling implemented called Case Openings wink.gif
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Gambling is regulated because quite a few people get hooked. It's generally a mental health issue for the most part(and a cut for officials). Guarantee you have a close relative with a gambling issue.

Not to mention the idea of people gambling on CS GO is ridiculous in it's own right.

The game already has a legal gambling implemented called Case Openings wink.gif

Quite literally slots. No joke.
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Except it's like $3 per roll. At least you can run nickle slots at a casino. tongue.gif
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None of their business, if you ask me.

I use the deck of cards that I buy at the gas station to gamble in a game of poker. Is it the card-maker's fault? No. Is it the gas station's fault? No. Is it my fault? Yes.
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None of their business, if you ask me.

I use the deck of cards that I buy at the gas station to gamble in a game of poker. Is it the card-maker's fault? No. Is it the gas station's fault? No. Is it my fault? Yes.

The comparable argument here would be if you opened a casino using those cards, advertised it, and allowed twelve year olds to play.

... And then they blame the gas station for providing you with the means to do it. tongue.gif
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