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You can emulate all the 12_1 features if you already support 12_0.

Yes, but how big is the performance hit from needing to emulate them?
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And actually the specs for the 12_1 are not the finals one. It was a pure marketing move from nvidia.

The most important are the hardware features that dx12 requires.

So TimeSpy should have used DirectX 12 feature level 12_0 instead of 11_0?
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Yes, but how big is the performance hit from needing to emulate them?
So TimeSpy should have used DirectX 12 feature level 12_0 instead of 11_0?

Depends in a lot of things.

Marketing based on the features levels is just bad no matter who does that. You can see here that the only difference between 12_0 and 12_1 is Conservative Rasterization and Tiled Resources. And i am not so sure if anyone will use 12_1 soon and i mean in the next 1-2 years.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ff476876(v=vs.85).aspx

But on the hardware features AMD supports way more things and much better like hardware binding.


Time Spy probably was in development before dx12. They just add dx12 support to catch up with the hype.
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I couldn't get a proper response for that from FM. They wouldn't say how well they send work to the GPUs for the driver to be able to split it on as many compute engines as possible. Actually Nvidia has 1 not 2, they simply have to switch and Pascal improves the switching with preemption.

Watch the actual interview with FM rep on PC perspective. The part where they go through the GPU diagrams they explain how the data in TS is coded to take advantage of a 2 pipe system that "BOTH" cards support at this time. That means AMDs other 6 potential pipes are being underutilized. The proof is in the few DX12 benches that claim to more fully utilize all the parallelism of AMD cards.

So you can make your own judgments. I have made mine. AMD cards are capable of equal or better performance TODAY on software that is optimized for parallelism and their unique architecture. Time will tell if and when it becomes main stream enough to be relevant on all games. Even if it is not until NV next gen where they add more pipelines themselves, its not the worst thing ever. AMD cards of old will suddenly outperform all the age old NV cards on the latest benchmarks and we will see once again that AMD was forward thinking and hamstrung by the developers and slow moving market, but add value to the usable lifespan of their tech vs the competition.
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Time Spy probably was in development before dx12. They just add dx12 support to catch up with the hype.

I think this was confirmed in another thread. Which explains why there is zero optimization.
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Watch the actual interview with FM rep on PC perspective. The part where they go through the GPU diagrams they explain how the data in TS is coded to take advantage of a 2 pipe system that "BOTH" cards support at this time. That means AMDs other 6 potential pipes are being underutilized. The proof is in the few DX12 benches that claim to more fully utilize all the parallelism of AMD cards.

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Great retort, you sure showed him.
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http://radeon.com/radeon-wins-3dmark-dx12/

(they don't seem to think it is "underutilizing" something, or somehow inaccurate)
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http://radeon.com/radeon-wins-3dmark-dx12/

(they don't seem to think it is "underutilizing" something, or somehow inaccurate)

Oh never post a PR article to a hardware enthusiast forum...

It doesn't prove anything by the way
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What's the deal with the Rx m480 ?

Nvm lol got it
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What's the deal with the Rx 480m GPU ?

Multigpu
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