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I remember when 3dmark actually pushed the best hw available to its limits, with its graphics...like getting max 30fps with top-end. Now it's more like "Look nerds!!!shiny new toy for 5$!!!"
And dont get me started on the Motion Blur-DoF and similar effects, i can get those without performance penalty if i squint my eyes and turn my head fast.

You can push DX12 pretty far without going to vendor-specific optimizations (which would invalidate it as a good benchmark).

Did you even look at the description of the scenes in the Tech Guide? Is pushing quite insane amount of graphics load (which is one of the reasons why "only" 10-20% per frame is compute - hard to push more than that with that much graphics without simply 'making up' load).

But yeah, understanding this would require you to take AMD glasses off. I guess I should give up responding to these, but I just can't help it when our guys worked for 1.5 years for this, it is legit one of the best looking 3DMarks ever and a bunch of people complain about stuff that is mostly made up or conjured from misunderstandings and mis-interpreting GPUView shots etc.

(no, 3DMark Time Spy does not "idle" a Fury without "enough stuff to do"... that is just hilarious)
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I sometimes wonder if AMD is actually behind these accusations as part of a stealth PR campaign
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I sometimes wonder if AMD is actually behind these accusations as part of a stealth PR campaign

 

I doubt they are, just as I doubt that all tech-writers are secret Nvidia cultists that pray to leather jacket shrines in their cellars.

 

Turbo-fanpeople are more than enough to stir these pots beyond all reasonable measure.

     
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This thing is still going on? LOL. Even after various hardware websites and people in the know confirmed there is no vendor bias.

And this whole thing happened because 14 year old AMD kiddies on Youtube and WCCF had unreal expectations thinking they'll have 50-100% perf boost in everything and it will be smooth sailing for them.
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You can push DX12 pretty far without going to vendor-specific optimizations (which would invalidate it as a good benchmark).

Did you even look at the description of the scenes in the Tech Guide? Is pushing quite insane amount of graphics load (which is one of the reasons why "only" 10-20% per frame is compute - hard to push more than that with that much graphics without simply 'making up' load).

But yeah, understanding this would require you to take AMD glasses off. I guess I should give up responding to these, but I just can't help it when our guys worked for 1.5 years for this, it is legit one of the best looking 3DMarks ever and a bunch of people complain about stuff that is mostly made up or conjured from misunderstandings and mis-interpreting GPUView shots etc.

(no, 3DMark Time Spy does not "idle" a Fury without "enough stuff to do"... that is just hilarious)

dude I would not even waste your time responding at ocn
this place is shill/clickbait city wink.gif
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Originally Posted by FMJarnis View Post

You can push DX12 pretty far without going to vendor-specific optimizations (which would invalidate it as a good benchmark).

Did you even look at the description of the scenes in the Tech Guide? Is pushing quite insane amount of graphics load (which is one of the reasons why "only" 10-20% per frame is compute - hard to push more than that with that much graphics without simply 'making up' load).

But yeah, understanding this would require you to take AMD glasses off. I guess I should give up responding to these, but I just can't help it when our guys worked for 1.5 years for this, it is legit one of the best looking 3DMarks ever and a bunch of people complain about stuff that is mostly made up or conjured from misunderstandings and mis-interpreting GPUView shots etc.

(no, 3DMark Time Spy does not "idle" a Fury without "enough stuff to do"... that is just hilarious)
Interesting that I didn't say any of this stuff that you imply I said, I'm just disappointed with the conservative approach on the gfx side.
Take Aquamark, New Calico test, nature test, Fire strike test,3dmark 11...now compare them with TS

Although making the top cards look weak would not make amd-nvidia happy.
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Interesting that I didn't say any of this stuff that you imply I said, I'm just disappointed with the conservative approach on the gfx side.
Take Aquamark, New Calico test, nature test, Fire strike test,3dmark 11...now compare them with TS

Although making the top cards look weak would not make amd-nvidia happy.
yep... those benches were hard on currently released gpu (even in multi card ) but gave good glimpse of what was coming


TS just feels more conservative .... sure, the scene is literally packed to the rafters but unless rendering at 4k, doesnt strain current mid to high setups ..
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You can push DX12 pretty far without going to vendor-specific optimizations (which would invalidate it as a good benchmark).

Did you even look at the description of the scenes in the Tech Guide? Is pushing quite insane amount of graphics load (which is one of the reasons why "only" 10-20% per frame is compute - hard to push more than that with that much graphics without simply 'making up' load).

Is 10-20% really that bad? Even oxide said that in Ashes each frame is around 20% compute.

I mean, ideally it might be higher, but the percentage really does depend on the amount of geometry rendered, unless you assume a fully compute based pipeline.
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You can push DX12 pretty far without going to vendor-specific optimizations (which would invalidate it as a good benchmark).

No, you can not. Time Spy, for the time being, is a failure of a test due to not using specific IHV paths and being very superficial with their implementation.
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the moment you got your shiny TXP and you realised your score is OVER 9000!!! eek.gif


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