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Are you looking to overclock or not? if not it may save $100 bucks to spend somewhere else

my previous build was overclocked and on liquid. I loved it and it was great but I'm not really sure if I need to do that at this point. I really want a nice quiet machine that will play everything on the highest possible resolution without drop in frame rate and to do some occasional video editing. If I don't need to overclock for that then I guess I don't need to.
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Are you looking to overclock or not? if not it may save $100 bucks to spend somewhere else

+1 to this. If you aren't overclocking, you can skip the K series processor and even the Z series mainboard chipsets and get mostly the same performance. You can actually save a substantial amount by doing that. My last build was on a H170 chipset instead of the overclocking capable Z170.
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+1 to this. If you aren't overclocking, you can skip the K series processor and even the Z series mainboard chipsets and get mostly the same performance. You can actually save a substantial amount by doing that. My last build was on a H170 chipset instead of the overclocking capable Z170.

I guess what I need to ask is what are the benefits of overclocking at this point? I get that it will increase performance but when is it needed?
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post #14 of 23
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my previous build was overclocked and on liquid. I loved it and it was great but I'm not really sure if I need to do that at this point. I really want a nice quiet machine that will play everything on the highest possible resolution without drop in frame rate and to do some occasional video editing. If I don't need to overclock for that then I guess I don't need to.

The difference between an i5 and an i7 will hinge on just how "occasional" your video editing is, and going with the i7 will yield better results than a marginal to moderate overclock (in my unscientific opinion).

But, if you are interested in recording or livestreaming games, an i7 will give you the extra power to increase streaming resolutions, framerates, and image quality. It's the current most likely application of an i7 for a pure gaming machine.
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I guess what I need to ask is what are the benefits of overclocking at this point? I get that it will increase performance but when is it needed?
You want the build to be as relevant and powerful as possible for the longest amount of time, correct? Overclock the 6700k and relax.
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+1 to this. If you aren't overclocking, you can skip the K series processor and even the Z series mainboard chipsets and get mostly the same performance. You can actually save a substantial amount by doing that. My last build was on a H170 chipset instead of the overclocking capable Z170.

I guess what I need to ask is what are the benefits of overclocking at this point? I get that it will increase performance but when is it needed?

Just that. More speed, though it's dependent on how well you overclocked, the capability of the silicon you end up with, how much you put into other components like cooling to enable the overclock, how much wattage you have leftover in your PSU, etc. Honestly. people overclock for different reasons. Some people just like to see the number go up while others may realize performance increases of some practical consequence. I don't overclock, personally. I get what I need out of my hardware at stock, the vast majority of the time.

It's really up to you what your reasons for OCing are. If you're a "I must not leave any performance on the table" type-A kind of guy... but you don't sound like you are. :-)
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Just that. More speed, though it's dependent on how well you overclocked, the capability of the silicon you end up with, how much you put into other components like cooling to enable the overclock, how much wattage you have leftover in your PSU, etc. Honestly. people overclock for different reasons. Some people just like to see the number go up while others may realize performance increases of some practical consequence. I don't overclock, personally. I get what I need out of my hardware at stock, the vast majority of the time.

It's really up to you what your reasons for OCing are. If you're a "I must not leave any performance on the table" type-A kind of guy... but you don't sound like you are. :-)

Nah. I used to be that way years ago when I built my last PC. I think I am a bit more practical right now and while I do like to have things as close to top end as I can, I'm not really needing to push the envelope and go overboard with cooling. My wife hated how noisy my last build was with all the fans going on the rad.

I will probably do some moderate overclocking as best I can with a more silent setup.
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Nah. I used to be that way years ago when I built my last PC. I think I am a bit more practical right now and while I do like to have things as close to top end as I can, I'm not really needing to push the envelope and go overboard with cooling. My wife hated how noisy my last build was with all the fans going on the rad.

I will probably do some moderate overclocking as best I can with a more silent setup.

I hear ya. Just weigh the cost of getting and overclocking a K-series processor with the savings you would derive from getting the equivalent non-K.

Good luck with your build. thumb.gif
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/J4LnHN

see if you like this one. It cost a bit more but if you want to you can replace the GPU with something else and even the motherboard as well if you don't like it
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.49 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII HERO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3866 Memory ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($161.65 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($439.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($141.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($87.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1560.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I modified your list a bit and took off the DVD drive and Windows as I have those. I was able to knock the price down a bit but still trying to decide on the ram and video card
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