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Maybe fix the multiplication too. You are off by a factor of 1.3
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post #32 of 44
Don't worry guys, elmor and dauer don't know how to overclock.

1.6ghz overclocking game stable clocks will be done on partner cards on air. It's because Wccftech and some partners said so. These guys are the real pros. Their knowledge and integrity is the best. LN2 doesn't help overclocking either. It's too cold. It can give people frostbite.

Warmer temps are better, meaning air is the best. Just you wait for air overclocking on AIB cards, your mind will be blown.
post #33 of 44
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Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post

Don't worry guys, elmor and dauer don't know how to overclock.

1.6ghz overclocking game stable clocks will be done on partner cards on air. It's because Wccftech Kyle Bennett and some partners said so. These guys are the real pros. Their knowledge and integrity is the best. LN2 doesn't help overclocking either. It's too cold. It can give people frostbite.

Warmer temps are better, meaning air is the best. Just you wait for air overclocking on AIB cards, your mind will be blown.

FTFY

And you are not wrong, derBauer indeed doesn't know how to overclock since he couldn't even get 1080 over 2.5GHz, but Kingpin managed 2.8GHz. What a nub.
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FTFY

And you are not wrong, derBauer indeed doesn't know how to overclock since he couldn't even get 1080 over 2.5GHz, but Kingpin managed 2.8GHz. What a nub.

Wccftech propagated this rumor before Kyle did.

Kingpin and the people he work with is simply a cut above. He carried xtremesystems.org by himself back in the day. He may have not innovated all that much but as far as pure skill, he was probably the best or the most lucky of all time. When you mix him with Shamino or hipro5, he was unstoppable.

If he wanted number 1 position, he could get it right away. He was on top for 3+ years. It's only when he stepped down did other people start getting number 1 position. He always owns the number 1 highest frequency as far as Nvidia cards go even till this day.
post #35 of 44
The real question is how common those 1450-1500MHz OC's turn out to be on normal cooling? Because it looks like GPU scores in the high 15k's and maybe even low 16k's is possible from those speeds and that would make for a pretty incredible sub-$300 video card...
post #36 of 44
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Wccftech propagated this rumor before Kyle did.

Kingpin and the people he work with is simply a cut above. He carried xtremesystems.org by himself back in the day. He may have not innovated all that much but as far as pure skill, he was probably the best or the most lucky of all time. When you mix him with Shamino or hipro5, he was unstoppable.

If he wanted number 1 position, he could get it right away. He was on top for 3+ years. It's only when he stepped down did other people start getting number 1 position. He always owns the number 1 highest frequency as far as Nvidia cards go even till this day.

I was hoping the "what a nub" comment would gave away I was being facetious. sadsmiley.gif
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The real question is how common those 1450-1500MHz OC's turn out to be on normal cooling? Because it looks like GPU scores in the high 15k's and maybe even low 16k's is possible from those speeds and that would make for a pretty incredible sub-$300 video card...

If they top out around 1700 on LN2, that really doesn't bode well for 1600 on air or even water. My guess is 1500 +/- 50 would be the limit on water, and air would be 50MHz lower.
Edited by magnek - 7/15/16 at 8:17pm
post #37 of 44
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

The real question is how common those 1450-1500MHz OC's turn out to be on normal cooling? Because it looks like GPU scores in the high 15k's and maybe even low 16k's is possible from those speeds and that would make for a pretty incredible sub-$300 video card...

From what has shown up so far, 1500 clocks are water only and not 24/7, just a benchmark run. Add in a waterblock cost and you have a solution that isn't far off the price of a 1070 with the added heat and power killing the value proposition.

1500mhz gaming clocks being stable are going to be incredibly rare and near impossible for air. Bench clocks with the added voltage does not equal 24/7 stable gaming clocks.

Everything so far still indicates 1400mhz and just a tad over for 24/7 gaming clocks. 1700mhz ln2 overclocks are just one more nail into the coffin in Polaris GCN's lauded overclocking headroom. 7970's on ln2 could do better than this and this was using a primitive 1st generation 28nm process using a die that was much larger than Polaris.
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I was hoping the "what a nub" comment would gave away I was being facetious. sadsmiley.gif
If they top out around 1700 on LN2, that really doesn't bode well for 1600 on air or even water. My guess is 1500 +/- 50 would be the limit on water, and air would be 50MHz lower.

I knew that, but why I mentioned kingpin, is he is always the exception. It's more respect towards kingpin than disrespecting dauer or elmor.
Edited by tajoh111 - 7/15/16 at 8:20pm
post #38 of 44
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Originally Posted by Marios145 View Post

Do you people realize that under extremely cold temps the resistance of silicon drops and this is the reason for using ln2 for overclocking.
Even at 1.5v the card might only consume 250w if temps are below -100C, so there is no point in measuring it

Actually, resistance of silicon goes up the colder it gets, and hotter silicon = less resistance (this is why power usage goes up the hotter it gets, leading to thermal runaway). Colder silicon will use less power, leading to even colder chips.
post #39 of 44
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He always owns the number 1 highest frequency as far as Nvidia cards go even till this day.

Couldn't possibly be because of his relationship with EVGA... They would never give him binned chips to promote the K|NGP|N brand... rolleyes.gif
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post #40 of 44
Seems to be a problem where they cannot get the card to go below 0C:



Looks like there will be a need for an LN2 bios of some sort to be able to see what it can really do when cooling is not an issue.

But pretty solid run @ 1600/2300:

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