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Thats not what was stated in your quoted text.
To be fair, his quote wasn't stated in my text either. I do use a TV, a slightly above average sound system, and still will never subject myself to low-fi anything unless I was stranded in the desert and had to stream over my network because I wasn't at home to restart my Plex server and already had an abundant supply of... stuff that I needed to keep me alive.

Are we on an enthusiast forum where people will spend thousands for 4k+ surround OLED setups, rads, blocks, tubing, GPU setups with such diminshing returns it gives the audiophile market a run for its sanity, or the Apple forums (possibly even Facebook) all of a sudden?

This place can be oddly backwards, almost all the time.
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Sorry, still having trouble proving to myself that IE will give me 1080p because the Ctrl+Alt+Shift+D display does not have a line in it for resolution like it does on FF.
I doubt all shows they offer will be 1080p, but I should at least be able to see what is being output.
What am I doing wrong to not be able to see what resolution I can achieve with my setup?



*Edit: Oh, and I can still only get this display thing to pop up if not in full screen, when in full screen nothing happens. Not sure if thats normal for IE.*
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Thats not what was stated in your quoted text.
To be fair, his quote wasn't stated in my text either. I do use a TV, a slightly above average sound system, and still will never subject myself to low-fi anything unless I was stranded in the desert and had to stream over my network because I wasn't at home to restart my Plex server and already had an abundant supply of... stuff that I needed to keep me alive.

Are we on an enthusiast forum where people will spend thousands for 4k+ surround OLED setups, rads, blocks, tubing, GPU setups with such diminshing returns it gives the audiophile market a run for its sanity, or the Apple forums (possibly even Facebook) all of a sudden?

This place can be oddly backwards, almost all the time.

Netflix's quality isn't that bad, if that's what you're saying. The main drawback is not being able to post-process the video.
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To be fair, his quote wasn't stated in my text either. I do use a TV, a slightly above average sound system, and still will never subject myself to low-fi anything unless I was stranded in the desert and had to stream over my network because I wasn't at home to restart my Plex server and already had an abundant supply of... stuff that I needed to keep me alive.

Are we on an enthusiast forum where people will spend thousands for 4k+ surround OLED setups, rads, blocks, tubing, GPU setups with such diminshing returns it gives the audiophile market a run for its sanity, or the Apple forums (possibly even Facebook) all of a sudden?

This place can be oddly backwards, almost all the time.

It seems that your just another member that doesn't even know what this forum was made for. Pushing hardware to its limits, not necessarily how much money we spend on it.
    
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Netflix's quality isn't that bad, if that's what you're saying. The main drawback is not being able to post-process the video.

netflix quality is terrible. Compared to a true source picture the differences are remarkable. Honestly my directv in SD has a better picture/sound, than netflix in (HD). Btw Directv is not a true source of picture they also use compression either Mpeg-2 or Mpeg-4. Only true sources are blu-ray, digital copies, and content picked up digitally over the air provided by your local networks.

You can do some post processing with netflix video. It's limited but AMD does have settings for internet video granted the options are limited to (fluid playback, steady video, custom sharpness, and custom color vibrance)
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netflix quality is terrible. Compared to a true source picture the differences are remarkable. Honestly my directv in SD has a better picture/sound, than netflix in (HD). Btw Directv is not a true source of picture they also use compression either Mpeg-2 or Mpeg-4. Only true sources are blu-ray, digital copies, and content picked up digitally over the air provided by your local networks.

You can do some post processing with netflix video. It's limited but AMD does have settings for internet video granted the options are limited to (fluid playback, steady video, custom sharpness, and custom color vibrance)


Can I have what you are smoking?


As SD TV looks horrible.

HD Netflix looks pretty decent, nice clean image for the most part. If that is not the same for you, I would look into your internet connection. As you clearly are not getting the full HD resolution.
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So let's say I have a 4k TV that has HDCP 2.2, and it's hooked up to my PC (980Ti), Is there any way to get 4k content from Netflix with this setup? Do you need Edge, or will Chrome do it?

This is a smart TV with a Netflix app, if the PC won't do it, will the built-in app on my 4k TV play 4k content?
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So let's say I have a 4k TV that has HDCP 2.2, and it's hooked up to my PC (980Ti), Is there any way to get 4k content from Netflix with this setup? Do you need Edge, or will Chrome do it?

This is a smart TV with a Netflix app, if the PC won't do it, will the built-in app on my 4k TV play 4k content?

The only way I know of to get 4K Netflix is to use the built-in app within Smart TVs, Amazon Fire, Nvidia Shield TV etc. The browser based version does not do anything above 1080p @ 7.5Mbps.

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netflix quality is terrible. Compared to a true source picture the differences are remarkable. Honestly my directv in SD has a better picture/sound, than netflix in (HD). Btw Directv is not a true source of picture they also use compression either Mpeg-2 or Mpeg-4. Only true sources are blu-ray, digital copies, and content picked up digitally over the air provided by your local networks.

You can do some post processing with netflix video. It's limited but AMD does have settings for internet video granted the options are limited to (fluid playback, steady video, custom sharpness, and custom color vibrance)


Can I have what you are smoking?


As SD TV looks horrible.

HD Netflix looks pretty decent, nice clean image for the most part. If that is not the same for you, I would look into your internet connection. As you clearly are not getting the full HD resolution.

I lived with SD DirecTV for a long time, it did not look better than Netflix then.

Even Blu-rays are compressed, BTW. You won't find lossless compression anywhere.


I think your ISP must be throttling your Netflix. I'm usually a video quality nut who can't watch videos without a big CPU/GPU for SVP and other filters, but Netflix's quality is fine.
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netflix quality is terrible. Compared to a true source picture the differences are remarkable. Honestly my directv in SD has a better picture/sound, than netflix in (HD). Btw Directv is not a true source of picture they also use compression either Mpeg-2 or Mpeg-4. Only true sources are blu-ray, digital copies, and content picked up digitally over the air provided by your local networks.

You can do some post processing with netflix video. It's limited but AMD does have settings for internet video granted the options are limited to (fluid playback, steady video, custom sharpness, and custom color vibrance)

I can tell you don't know much about digital video.

Blu-ray uses MPEG4, MPEG2, and VC-1. Ultra HD Blu-ray uses h.265 and offer HDR and higher color bit depth among some other things.

Blu-ray uses crappy color compression too, it's hardly a "source." Google "4:2:0 color compression."

DCP, what they use in theaters, is the closest you might get to a source. Even then, it uses intra-frame compression using JPEG2000 or MPEG2. "Consumer" video also uses inter-frame compression.

Not only that, Blu-ray is a 16:9 format without anamorphic pixels. Those 21:9'ish movies on Blu-ray with black bars on the top and bottom is closer to 720p than 1080p.

The only good thing about Blu-ray is the bit-rate for video and audio.

For most people who sit 10 feet away from a 42" 1080p TV, 6 Mbps Netflix is beyond fine.

My problem is that Netflix uses the minimum bit-rate spec for their DD+ tracks. Their stereo AAC tracks are simple horrible.

Frankly, of all the streaming services, they have the best video quality.
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