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Oh no, only 350 million devices in a year? rolleyes.gif Windows 7 was at half that by this point in its life cycle. Windows 8 was at a quarter this amount in half the time. (Sauce) So no issue here really. 1 billion devices is pretty optimistic too. That's an incredibly large number and I'm not sure any OS has ever reached that amount.
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Oh no, only 350 million devices in a year? rolleyes.gif Windows 7 was at half that by this point in its life cycle. Windows 8 was at a quarter this amount in half the time. (Sauce) So no issue here really. 1 billion devices is pretty optimistic too. That's an incredibly large number and I'm not sure any OS has ever reached that amount.

Several reasons why it reached this point....number one through three reasons....free, free and more free....If it wasnt for the free upgrade the numbers would be astonishingly low....then there is the sneak upgrades and outright deception clicks....

Also Win7 adoption was incredibly low at first due to the bad rollout for vista, as well as most businesses refusing to budge from XP....When the security updates stopped and either found new software that would work on WIN7 or found it to be compatible with it, then you saw alot more moving to Win7....
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Oh no, only 350 million devices in a year? rolleyes.gif Windows 7 was at half that by this point in its life cycle. Windows 8 was at a quarter this amount in half the time. (Sauce) So no issue here really. 1 billion devices is pretty optimistic too. That's an incredibly large number and I'm not sure any OS has ever reached that amount.

Well, one has to wonder what percent of that 350 million was voluntary, and how much Win 10 being free contributed to inflating said number.
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Well, one has to wonder what percent of that 350 million was voluntary, and how much Win 10 being free contributed to inflating said number.
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And the users who went back to W7 or W8 after grabbing their free copy. They are not W10 users.

And the users who went back to W7 or W8 because they experienced problems with W10. And those who did not have problems but preferred what they had. However because of the way MS implemented licensing entitlement, the device is counted as a W10 device.

I do not know if the OEM installations are counted in this 350 million. Not too many (maybe zero) OEMs are offering W7 or W8 as preloads right now. If they are counted in the 350 million it is a bit ingenuous especially if they are unsold devices. Maybe somebody here knows the answer to this one.

As far as the 1 billion target goes, I thought it was a number that included several platforms - Windows PCs, Windows phones, XBox , tablets and IOT devices.
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It's true. They know their market and they play it like a drum.
To me it's more like they don't have a clue what the market want.
Haven't had any urges or need for Win8/Win10, Winphone/Win10M or any WinRT/Windows tablets.

But that doesn't mean that I never will buy anything from Moneysoft (yet), as I last year bought a Microsoft Win7 OEM licens.

Microsoft maybe should do what they did when Win 8 failed on the market, Kick out the CEO Satya Nadella and rename Win10 to something else.
It worked with Internet Explorer to Edge? It worked with Win8 to Win10?
They can replace CEOs as another change underwear, but if they don't deliver what the market wants they can only shrink their market shares.
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To me it's more like they don't have a clue what the market want.
Haven't had any urges or need for Win8/Win10, Winphone/Win10M or any WinRT/Windows tablets.

But that doesn't mean that I never will buy anything from Moneysoft (yet), as I last year bought a Microsoft Win7 OEM licens.

Microsoft maybe should do what they did when Win 8 failed on the market, Kick out the CEO Satya Nadella and rename Win10 to something else.
It worked with Internet Explorer to Edge? It worked with Win8 to Win10?
They can replace CEOs as another change underwear, but if they don't deliver what the market wants they can only shrink their market shares.

 

Well, that really depends on the market to which you are referring. They surely don't know or aren't willing to offer what 'power' OS users want but I'd say that they have a fairly good handle on what the average consumer wants. Plug n' play, familiarity, built-in protection from user error. Likewise, IE has always had an uncomfortably large following and as W10 adoption rates rise so too will those for Edge.

 

Whether or not they understand the mobile market is another issue entirely. The point is that they've built an entire niche around the bumper-pool of operating systems and it's been successful for them because we enthusiasts are the minority and the Candy Crushers are the majority.

     
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Poor babies. My heart is aching for them! rolleyes.gif
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Meh. As far as Windows phones go Microsoft screwed themselves by not paying certain companies to get their apps on Windows phone.

As a Verizon salesman when Windows phone launched I can tell you I lost almost every Windows phone sale when I answered "No" to "does it have snapchat?" Idc what their intended audience was or who they were going after, their app store not having the most popular mobile apps was the death of them.
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Well, that really depends on the market to which you are referring. They surely don't know or aren't willing to offer what 'power' OS users want but I'd say that they have a fairly good handle on what the average consumer wants. Plug n' play, familiarity, built-in protection from user error. Likewise, IE has always had an uncomfortably large following and as W10 adoption rates rise so too will those for Edge.

Whether or not they understand the mobile market is another issue entirely. The point is that they've built an entire niche around the bumper-pool of operating systems and it's been successful for them because we enthusiasts are the minority and the Candy Crushers are the majority.
They got it wrong pretty badly with Win 8 on the desktop !
They did not get it right with windows phone - I own one but I do not know anybody else that does . But that is a mistake I will rectify soon ! S6 Edge and out with the Lumia .
Most of the plebs would happily motor on on Win 7 for years to come so Win 10 what the people want - not really !
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