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No.

Maybe 9-12 months out.

The entire game BTW.


Also, you're responsible for your own money - Responsible consumers should be responsible.

9-12 months? I'd say impossible. If we were 9 months away from release... the game should be well into Alpha by now. And we don't even have Squadron 42 yet, or even seen any playable vids that show anything worthwhile.

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It's just common sense that you can't make a decent modern game on a three million dollar budget, and given how new crowdfunding was in 2012, and that Star Citizen is the only crowdfunded anything ever to make more than a couple of million, it's safe to say that crowdfunding was not intended to be the primary source of funding.

You're right that crowdfunded projects always come with the risk of someone running away with all the money, and that's why the only way this could possibly happen is with Chris Roberts.
Chances are most of the people who take this project seriously already have a long history with Chris. People have been playing his games for decades, we like everything he's done and we want more, hopefully we keep getting new Squadron 42 missions for decades to come.
Which is just another reason why this starting phase has to be done right, I'm betting that the work being done on Star Citizen now will be the basis for some of the best "new" experiences to be had for decades to come.

You might be deeply disappointed in the end.

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I of course apologize for being wrong. We cannot assume we know anything of others... Good day.

Don't worry about it wink.gif Chances of you finding a user with a crowdfunded keyboard were pretty slim... yet you found one biggrin.gif So, your assumptions were statistically accurate wink.gif Still, I agree with you that it makes far more sense to pay for a product once it is finished. But some new hardware projects are popping out and they can only work through crowdfunding.
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I learned my lesson from DayZ. I will never back another Early Access or in Beta game ever. Which is sad because I know there are alot of good developers out there making games I would enjoy that could use the help.

Everytime a friend or coworker brought up this game I always said I felt it was a complete scam. The price they were charging for ships was just insane. And at the time you couldnt even fly them. Just walk around in the hanger and view them. It felt to me like a completely ass backwards way of developing a game. Work on the world and story, fix bugs then work on your fleet of ships.

For crying out loud they (DayZ) told you that this game was going to be a mess for along time and advised you not to buy it if you couldn't handle it. DayZ is a $35 game due to be 1.0 in another year quite different from folks pledging hundreds of dollars, and spending hundreds on pixel ships.
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Yeah, if
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For crying out loud they (DayZ) told you that this game was going to be a mess for along time and advised you not to buy it if you couldn't handle it. DayZ is a $35 game due to be 1.0 in another year quite different from folks pledging hundreds of dollars, and spending hundreds on pixel ships.

That being said...there's bad like Rust was...and there's bad like DayZ was/is.

I mean when your beta doesn't even have functional core gameplay elements that's a sign your game probably shouldn't even be up for sale, beta or otherwise. That's what pre-alpha is for.

Example: remember the noclip zombies that followed you no matter how far you ran away? I mean they fixed that (took them a long time) which is GREAT but the point is, if a game can't have the single most important mechanic to it's theme working, it probably shouldn't be sold.

Star Citizen has it's bare bones, minus a few features working. I doubt it'll be on schedule at all, the project is a massive undertaking, combining several types of games into one and I think expecting it to be on schedule is a bit silly given the increased scope of the game.

They're essentially developing 3 seperate games on one engine and combining them. Then after they're done that they're gonna have to work on some netcode magic due to multi person crews.

That's going to be a nightmare, having 3+ guys all crammed into one ship (so they have to be in synch) vs dozens of other players who may be doing the same thing with their own ships.

Expecting Star Citizen to be done by now or even on schedule is not realistic at all. Could it happen? yeah, it could but it's highly unlikely. People need to have variable expectations.
Edited by DIYDeath - 7/19/16 at 12:38pm
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Oh man, Derek Smart, I haven't heard that name since 2004 when he supposedly was going to make Freespace 3...

I never did pledge any money to Star Citizen primarily as I wanted a game I could just purchase directly. I've never been a big fan of all of this crowd sourcing wizardry... certainly not shaping up to be Freelancer 2 anyway.
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has anyone checked this guys garage for a fleet of Ferrari's?
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There's a difference between declining a refund and changing the terms of an agreement unilaterally after the fact.
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He "donated" 3k...I think he got more than 5 reasons to get the money back.

Good for him
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I got really drunk one night and the next morning found a 1,000 dollar PayPal charge on my checking account.

Took me an hour to realize I had bought the 1,000 dollar package.

I wish I could get a refund but the hassle of what that guy had to go through probably isn't worth the grand.

and Paypal wouldn't let you have the money back anyway...
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