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post #371 of 2319
I think the 'fail' is hard in this thread. Received mouse today. I do want to preface, that I had my suspicions about the pitches at several popular group-purchase sites. This review is as unbiased as possible, but I'm a little troubled that I might have instigated that.

Overall: Personally...I think it's an exceptional mouse at the pricepoint.

Everybody looks for particular things in a mouse. I look for a good performer without cruft.

This mouse is an excellent performer, has no cruft, and has a pretty good pricepoint.

- Sensor is onpoint and in an appropriate position for once. How often do these two factors match up at ANY price point. Wow, we can almost end HERE as a complete success in the current mouse market...but I want to qualify a few more things.

- Form is fantastic and very comfortable. I normally play ergo, but really didn't have to adjust my grip to get the same contacts coming from a partial palm on an EC-2A.

- Skates: ...are above-par. This is a complaint I keep hearing or maybe people are just latching on and parroting. Probably one of the better stocks I've ever had on a mouse. I've experienced some real nightmare bricks on many popular mice. Pad is Hien-mid, bad skates show on this pad easily.

- Clicks: M2 is definitely easier to actuate than M1. I think it's the shell. Things like this don't really bother me. My pressure is just the pressure I press when clicking a button. I've never understood this issue...but my clicks don't have the same weight. I can verify this...but I can't really wrap my head around the realworld effect of this. Clicks are responsive. I tried kinda toying with the shell and angle of my presses to replicate the 'hitching/ switch depressing problem' where the actuator hits a bit of the shell. Could not replicate.

- Surface: Feels nice. It seems like a real choice. It's less rubberized than a zowie. Textured plastic with maybe some sort of minor surfacing?

- Bottom Sticker: There are no alignment issues/overhang causing scraping. I think this is a weird slight being reported...as it could easily have been removed if this was the issue rather than a rage return or condemning to a 'junk drawer' in some comments.

- Scroll Wheel: I'm not a scrollwheel guy. Maybe when web-browsing, but I wep switch in gaming via keyboard shortcuts as it's precise and immediate. Scroll wheel has a definite, tactile, turnover to it. I don't dislike it. I think players will like this. The 'button' bit has a considerable weight to it. Again, as a guy that owns many mice, and doesn't really give much time to the scroll wheel...this particular button requires some actuating. I dunno if that is good or bad...because I just kinda don't care or imagine the situation I would.

- Side-buttons: These kinda fall into the same area as the Scroll Wheel. There is a definitive problem with the position of the thumb buttons. I always find thumb buttons to be 'bad', but these are so far out of the way, that I think they developers felt the same and just put them somewhere inaccessible. They aren't good and they aren't positioned well. Again...I could care less.

I think Nixeus really delivered to be honest. It's not for 'everyone' but it's for a specific crowd that wants a minimal design that performs in a nice form factor.

Good job Nixeus.
Edited by czerro - 8/6/16 at 4:36am
post #372 of 2319
why's everyone going for either the dreammachine or nixeus in stead of the red square mouse?
post #373 of 2319
Mainly because it was available on Massdrop with really good price.
post #374 of 2319
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why's everyone going for either the dreammachine or nixeus in stead of the red square mouse?

I don't even think that's available outside of the CIS region...?
    
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post #375 of 2319
there are ways, dude.
jk, fair enough. that red square one just seemed like better overall build quality to me. although apparently there are firmware issues, so whatever.

btw thanks for the kinzu "hype", it's pretty sweet mouse (just got mine).
though - dunno what the cpi steps are, but that higher (default) one performs totally garbage on my pad rolleyes.gif the lower one is alright, luckily
post #376 of 2319
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Originally Posted by czerro View Post

I think the 'fail' is hard in this thread. Received mouse today. I do want to preface, that I had my suspicions about the pitches at several popular group-purchase sites. This review is as unbiased as possible, but I'm a little troubled that I might have instigated that.

Overall: Personally...I think it's an exceptional mouse at the pricepoint.

Everybody looks for particular things in a mouse. I look for a good performer without cruft.

This mouse is an excellent performer, has no cruft, and has a pretty good pricepoint.

- Sensor is onpoint and in an appropriate position for once. How often do these two factors match up at ANY price point. Wow, we can almost end HERE as a complete success in the current mouse market...but I want to qualify a few more things.

- Form is fantastic and very comfortable. I normally play ergo, but really didn't have to adjust my grip to get the same contacts coming from a partial palm on an EC-2A.

- Skates: ...are above-par. This is a complaint I keep hearing or maybe people are just latching on and parroting. Probably one of the better stocks I've ever had on a mouse. I've experienced some real nightmare bricks on many popular mice. Pad is Hien-mid, bad skates show on this pad easily.

- Clicks: M2 is definitely easier to actuate than M1. I think it's the shell. Things like this don't really bother me. My pressure is just the pressure I press when clicking a button. I've never understood this issue...but my clicks don't have the same weight. I can verify this...but I can't really wrap my head around the realworld effect of this. Clicks are responsive. I tried kinda toying with the shell and angle of my presses to replicate the 'hitching/ switch depressing problem' where the actuator hits a bit of the shell. Could not replicate.

- Surface: Feels nice. It seems like a real choice. It's less rubberized than a zowie. Textured plastic with maybe some sort of minor surfacing?

- Bottom Sticker: There are no alignment issues/overhang causing scraping. I think this is a weird slight being reported...as it could easily have been removed if this was the issue rather than a rage return or condemning to a 'junk drawer' in some comments.

- Scroll Wheel: I'm not a scrollwheel guy. Maybe when web-browsing, but I wep switch in gaming via keyboard shortcuts as it's precise and immediate. Scroll wheel has a definite, tactile, turnover to it. I don't dislike it. I think players will like this. The 'button' bit has a considerable weight to it. Again, as a guy that owns many mice, and doesn't really give much time to the scroll wheel...this particular button requires some actuating. I dunno if that is good or bad...because I just kinda don't care or imagine the situation I would.

- Side-buttons: These kinda fall into the same area as the Scroll Wheel. There is a definitive problem with the position of the thumb buttons. I always find thumb buttons to be 'bad', but these are so far out of the way, that I think they developers felt the same and just put them somewhere inaccessible. They aren't good and they aren't positioned well. Again...I could care less.

I think Nixeus really delivered to be honest. It's not for 'everyone' but it's for a specific crowd that wants a minimal design that performs in a nice form factor.

Good job Nixeus.
Well said. Props to nixeus. People can complain about QC, but its a $40 mouse with a top of the line sensor. And most of those little niggles won't affect you in game. If it was a $60-70 mouse, then I could understand the complaints. A g100s is like $20-$30 and is leagues behind.
post #377 of 2319
People spend 40 bucks and don't care if it's crap? Rather, they praise the company and tell them good job? That's it, I'm starting a business tongue.gif
post #378 of 2319
Day 2:

LMB is really loud. Both are, but LMB especially has this deep echo. I'd actually feel uncomfortable using this at work or something because of how loud it is.
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post #379 of 2319
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Originally Posted by coldc0ffee View Post

People spend 40 bucks and don't care if it's crap? Rather, they praise the company and tell them good job? That's it, I'm starting a business tongue.gif

This - a product that is flawed at it's fundamentals at the end is a fundamentally flawed product.

People identified major issues (mouse buttons, drag) after using it 5 minutes - it's unacceptable for companies to bring stuff like that to the market!

If you assign manufacturing to an external source you need to make sure to have quality checks ahead of serial production in place.

So either they did not get pre-serial production samples representative of the final product or approved the production despite the obvious flaws (once again we talk about stuff that every user can identify within minutes of use).

The logic for some apparently goes "thank god I only wasted 40 bucks for a product that realistically will not be my daily driver (and thus obsolete)". This mentality has to stop if we ever want to see questionable built quality products to stop getting released.

Let's see if Nixeus goes BST and FM mode - frequent communication ahead of launch but once it hits the fan turn radio silent.
post #380 of 2319
Wow. The only reason I got this mouse was a) Massdrop special for $39.99 USD (which equivalent to a full tank of gas here in California) b) I had curiosity of how other companies would implement the 3360 sensor. To my dismay, not only did it feel really cheap, the build quality was just as flimsy as my DM1 Pro and just................. felt really cheap! I never fully understood the "buttons are in unity with the mouse shell" design. I think companies like FinalMouse and Logitech got it right with mouse buttons segregated from the rest of the mouse. Otherwise, the bending of the shell in unison with pressing mouse buttons can be hit or miss (too stiff or too loose). It's like what everyone already said. What good is a great performing sensor if everything else like the buttons and build quality is subpar? It's like throwing in a Corvette V8 engine into the body of a KIA. Total mismatch. After 3 hours of so so gaming with it, I ran back to my Logitech G900. Gonna sell this Revel mouse on eBay.
Edited by VESPA5 - 8/6/16 at 8:27am
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