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Originally Posted by M1st View Post

Will epoxy be strong enough to sustain the abuse of lifting and smacking the mouse into the pad/table?

So you a kind of person, that abuses mouse? I think there are a lot of different epoxies out there and some of them could suit option, that your plan is to make a mouse and crash test it.
post #32 of 61
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So you a kind of person, that abuses mouse? I think there are a lot of different epoxies out there and some of them could suit option, that your plan is to make a mouse and crash test it.

No, not really. I'm very gentle with my mouse and i dont even lift it usually. But that's me. Lowsensers and their playstyle require more durable shell, that's why i'm asking. Also it's not about smacking it hard once, it's repeated process of mild smacking after lifting, so i wondered how well can epoxy handle repeated strain. (also remembering broken mouse1 and mouse2 on fm i have to question how well epoxy can handle that)

I know for sure that there is a guy who makes custom mice out of wood, started as DIY and made it a business.
post #33 of 61
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Originally Posted by M1st View Post

No, not really. I'm very gentle with my mouse and i dont even lift it usually. But that's me. Lowsensers and their playstyle require more durable shell, that's why i'm asking. Also it's not about smacking it hard once, it's repeated process of mild smacking after lifting, so i wondered how well can epoxy handle repeated strain. (also remembering broken mouse1 and mouse2 on fm i have to question how well epoxy can handle that)

I know for sure that there is a guy who makes custom mice out of wood, started as DIY and made it a business.

Would be interested to see a mouse made of hardwood, because that stuff can handle abuse like a champ biggrin.gif Im pretty sure, that even a bit thicker layer of carbon+epoxy would make a good shell that can handle lots of abuse and keep on holding a shape smile.gif the most difficult thing would be to make a mold, that suits your needs and a layout of pcb smile.gif

Really stop to thinking on difficult things like scaning to 3d print and such. You guys really starting to forget about analogue ways to do stuff biggrin.gif Patience, huge piece of clay and some spare time in life to enjoy doing diy with your imagination outside of living room in front of pc. Been there, first impression was awful but then i liked it biggrin.gif
Edited by mr one - 7/18/16 at 8:12am
post #34 of 61
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Originally Posted by TranquilTempest View Post

Making the mouse shape isn't harder than the electronics, it's just a totally different skill set.

3D printing isn't going to be a good way to go about it. You're making a physical object that needs to feel good in your hand. Why wait hours/days for your 3d printed prototype when you can sculpt it out of clay and immediately feel what you need to fix?
And the inside of the mouse at the same time? Sure you can prototype it with clay, then 3D scan it and then 3D print the final thing, which is still crap load of work and profi tools needed to get any decent product. Why do all these companies use the same Sensei Chinese mold to make custom mice? Well because they don't have to develop their own shape, they just order the shells or even a whole mice with that shell according to their specs. Making a custom mold costs a lot so they don't bother and just slap out yet another Sensei clone.
post #35 of 61
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And the inside of the mouse at the same time? Sure you can prototype it with clay, then 3D scan it and then 3D print the final thing, which is still crap load of work and profi tools needed to get any decent product. Why do all these companies use the same Sensei Chinese mold to make custom mice? Well because they don't have to develop their own shape, they just order the shells or even a whole mice with that shell according to their specs. Making a custom mold costs a lot so they don't bother and just slap out yet another Sensei clone.
I take it you didn't read my other post, you use your sculpted mouse as a mold for vacuforming, which is your functional shell. High volume mice need injection molding to meet their cost constraints, but nobody's going to spend tens of thousands of dollars on injection molds for one mouse, or even a run of 1000 mice. Vacuum forming is ideal for small runs, and is easy enough to DIY. You also get a better result than the vast majority of 3d printers.
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post #36 of 61
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Would be interested to see a mouse made of hardwood, because that stuff can handle abuse like a champ biggrin.gif
I picked up some 1x2 sections of walnut a couple months ago with this specific purpose in mind. However, I'm not entirely sure how I'm going to shape the shell, because walnut is hard as hell. I've got a feeling hand carving tools aren't going to do much...
post #37 of 61
I kinda wanted to start doing something like this, but I always threw away the idea of an attempt when I thought about the buttons. Especially the thumb-buttons.

I think what most people would be interested in is something like qsxcv did with the teensy-mod but without all the soldering and such.

Just a simple opensource firmware to adjust everything the way you want for the STM32, for example.
Whenever I start to attempt any reversing/decompiling I remind myself - "if it would be that easy that I could do it without any RE experience it would have probably been done already" and I throw away that idea aswell biggrin.gif

What a vicious circle. redface.gif
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post #38 of 61
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I picked up some 1x2 sections of walnut a couple months ago with this specific purpose in mind. However, I'm not entirely sure how I'm going to shape the shell, because walnut is hard as hell. I've got a feeling hand carving tools aren't going to do much...

shape it!! This thing is not as hard as it looks. Just use a power tools
post #39 of 61
I like how we went from people begging for years for an optical sensei to people complaining about the abudance of sensei clones in only 6 months.
post #40 of 61
And maybe one of them will actually be good
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