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How fast is the first generation optane vs the upcoming Samsung 960?

I guess in real world performance it probably just barely faster.

SM961 is already hitting 3.2GB/s read and 1.8GB/s write with 450K IOPS, not to mention reasonable 50 cent per GB price. 960 Pro retail version is going to be even faster, more stable and probably cheaper as well

Optane is going to have a hard time competing 960 for anything except OS drive (That is if it prove to be so fast its instant boot for window 10)

Latency and low-queue depth I/O are going to be in a different league than the 960, like going from a 10k raptor to early SSDs. Those IOPs ratings you see are all at high queue depths, which is useless for measuring everyday desktop performance.


Sequential reads/writes and high queue depth stuff will be closer. But, as we've seen with HDDs and SSDs, that won't matter.


I think Windows booting is going to be CPU-limited with XPoint, more than anything.
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Latency and low-queue depth I/O are going to be in a different league than the 960, like going from a 10k raptor to early SSDs. Those IOPs ratings you see are all at high queue depths, which is useless for measuring everyday desktop performance.


Sequential reads/writes and high queue depth stuff will be closer. But, as we've seen with HDDs and SSDs, that won't matter.


I think Windows booting is going to be CPU-limited with XPoint, more than anything.


Again the price. Which might restrict Xpoint to just window boot drive.


And I guess Intel I7 are more capable than being CPU-limited, which means almost instant boot is very possible if Xpoint is that capable, but I doubt the first generation can be so fast. Just like the first generation of SSD.
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Latency and low-queue depth I/O are going to be in a different league than the 960, like going from a 10k raptor to early SSDs. Those IOPs ratings you see are all at high queue depths, which is useless for measuring everyday desktop performance.


Sequential reads/writes and high queue depth stuff will be closer. But, as we've seen with HDDs and SSDs, that won't matter.


I think Windows booting is going to be CPU-limited with XPoint, more than anything.


Again the price. Which might restrict Xpoint to just window boot drive.


And I guess Intel I7 are more capable than being CPU-limited, which means almost instant boot is very possible if Xpoint is that capable, but I doubt the first generation can be so fast. Just like the first generation of SSD.

Since write endurance isn't an issue, even if the drive is only 32GB or 64GB, you could still set it up as a cache drive for running applications. It'd be a wicked pagefile drive or scratch drive too.
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I believe one of the use cases for 3D XP memory was supposed to be main system memory. MRAM is already being used for micro-controllers, but it has density issues.

I would imagine it could also save tons of power in mobile phones and tablets if implemented properly.
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I was hoping my Sig rig would last long enough still might till coping becomes new main memory standard. I'd love to have 256gb-512gb-1024gb of ram it'd be great for running web db or game servers then only bottleneck would be network speed being able push enough bandwidth to host 128 player servers without lagging.
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I was hoping my Sig rig would last long enough still might till coping becomes new main memory standard. I'd love to have 256gb-512gb-1024gb of ram it'd be great for running web db or game servers then only bottleneck would be network speed being able push enough bandwidth to host 128 player servers without lagging.

If you want that much XPoint, the only bottleneck is your wallet tongue.gif
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I am always ready for new fast storage-tech biggrin.gif

2x Sm961nvme 1TB is fast, but I allways want more tongue.gif


I'd like to have 100MB/s +4k Random read @ QD=1, Heck, IO-extreme SLC did 80-90MB/s 4k rr @ QD=1 YEARS ago rolleyes.gif

My 10GB lan is too slow....
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We need 100gb LAN heck just release 1TB LAN already.
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You can setup 100Gb at home if you want, just prepare to break your piggy bank with a mace.

To be fair, you can get Connect X-4 cards for 600-700, though good luck getting QSFP28 transceivers
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I am always ready for new fast storage-tech biggrin.gif

2x Sm961nvme 1TB is fast, but I allways want more tongue.gif


I'd like to have 100MB/s +4k Random read @ QD=1, Heck, IO-extreme SLC did 80-90MB/s 4k rr @ QD=1 YEARS ago rolleyes.gif

My 10GB lan is too slow....

I assume you mean gigabit or are you running some server grade stuff?

Lets just all switch to Gibibytes and mibibytes. The industry hasn't f** up that metric yet.
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