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This is pretty exciting news. This Xpoint storage could possibly be the breakthrough that would put storage off the list of the bottlenecks for a computer... No longer would we be waiting on the storage drive to queue the file you're loading but now it'd be up to the CPU/memory or something else that'd eventually take the place of the storage bottleneck...Honestly this could be pretty scary how fast PC's could become...even with current gen CPU/GPU's the storage war could be totally dominated by the 3D Xpoint. One question though, is this limited to Intel only? Meaning, do they have a patent on the technology that they can monopolize the market with???
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That's a good question. I'm sure AMD will get access to the DIMM variants at some point but I bet Intel well at least keep it to themselves for a cycle or two; I'm just assuming there will be some kind of software lock on it. The SSD's I think use NVMe, so I think it'll be available for both.
Edited by TheBloodEagle - 8/1/16 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by OCmember View Post

Anyone take a guess if it will be able to run on an X58 system?

It will not be able to run on anything older than the 200 chipset(yet to be released), this is very new hardware, developered with 0 F given for backward compatibility. You either upgrade or don't have access to this.
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It will not be able to run on anything older than the 200 chipset(yet to be released), this is very new hardware, developered with 0 F given for backward compatibility. You either upgrade or don't have access to this.

For NVME based drives too? I thought that applied to the DIMM versions only.
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It will not be able to run on anything older than the 200 chipset(yet to be released), this is very new hardware, developered with 0 F given for backward compatibility. You either upgrade or don't have access to this.

For NVME based drives too? I thought that applied to the DIMM versions only.

This must be correct, NVME works everywhere NVME works, like SATA only better. wink.gif

Intel wants everyone to buy 3DXpoint while also wanting the advantage of requiring Intel to get the truly crazy performance the DIMM package provides.
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For NVME based drives too? I thought that applied to the DIMM versions only.


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This must be correct, NVME works everywhere NVME works, like SATA only better. wink.gif

Intel wants everyone to buy 3DXpoint while also wanting the advantage of requiring Intel to get the truly crazy performance the DIMM package provides.

I was mostly talking to this guy who asked if he could use it on a X58 platform and the answer in that case is definitely No.
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Anyone take a guess if it will be able to run on an X58 system?

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NVMe requires UEFI. AFAIK all X58 boards had standard BIOSes.
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Sadly NVMe/PCIe/U.2 SSDs give you next to no real-world improvements for a massive premium. I wish NVMe M.2 drives would reach parity with SATA drives...
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NVMe requires UEFI. AFAIK all X58 boards had standard BIOSes.

Even then They don't have M.2 slots, you could by M.2 to PCIE convert cards and wiesel out of upgrading CPU that way I guess rolleyes.gif
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Sadly NVMe/PCIe/U.2 SSDs give you next to no real-world improvements for a massive premium. I wish NVMe M.2 drives would reach parity with SATA drives...

These days the benefit is mostly in benchmarking and ease of installation, I do appreciate not having to plug 2 extra cables and 4-5 screws.
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They don't have M.2 slots, you could by M.2 to PCIE convert cards and wiesel out of upgrading CPU that way I guess rolleyes.gif

That part isn't the hindrance. You could buy a native PCIe SSD, which the Optane will likely come in. Or you can use a m.2 to PCIe adapter. Even P67/Z68 boards can boot from NVMe SSDs if you mod the bios.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1571271/tutorial-how-to-add-nvme-support-on-any-ami-uefi-bios-with-an-intel-chipset/0_20
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