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If you go the receiver route, it works very much the same way as an external DAC, and will almost always include a built in amp. These are usually the preferred devices for HTPCs but I honestly find them to be serious overkill, often having a large amount of feature redundancy with your HTPC and/or your TV. You pay for those redundant features and they take up space, so you're probably best off avoiding a receiver if you are building your own system specifically as an HTPC, but it is up to you.

I would disagree, I think a receiver is the smart choice. The receiver would provide the amp and terminals for the speakers, and offer an easy solution for sharing the TV and speakers with any other equipment he might get in the future, like a game console or bluray player.
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I would disagree, I think a receiver is the smart choice. The receiver would provide the amp and terminals for the speakers, and offer an easy solution for sharing the TV and speakers with any other equipment he might get in the future, like a game console or bluray player.

Most modern TVs have multiple inputs and outputs, and can basically replace the I/O portion of a receiver.

If his speakers are powered, he doesn't need an AMP, and can hook them up directly to his motherboard or external DAC.

A receiver is the most robust and flexible option, but it really just depends on what he intends to do with his setup, and his budget. If he already has a TV he loves, and speakers he loves, and he needs both the I/O panel and the audio amplification, than a receiver would indeed be the best choice. If he is putting this system together with all new parts, avoiding the unused redundancy can give him a lot more money to invest into higher quality components.
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i Do not have the speakers for a home theater setup. I have great M-Audio speakers for my main Gaming PC but i would want actual home theater speakers for the HTPC. I like the idea of HDMI speakers so that its digital and easy to plug in but i feel like i won't get great audio quality out of those. An external DOC with connections for a 5.1 system that then connects either through the onboard audio jack or USB sounds like something i would go for.

I checked my Asus router and it has a slot for me to put a usb hard drive in it. if i just plug a HDD in there will it be able to create a NAS ? I need to do some research on how i would be able to save files to or store/move around the network without my PC being on.

do i need a mini graphics card like the Nano cards from AMD or gtx 960 mini ?
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i Do not have the speakers for a home theater setup. I have great M-Audio speakers for my main Gaming PC but i would want actual home theater speakers for the HTPC. I like the idea of HDMI speakers so that its digital and easy to plug in but i feel like i won't get great audio quality out of those. An external DOC with connections for a 5.1 system that then connects either through the onboard audio jack or USB sounds like something i would go for.

I checked my Asus router and it has a slot for me to put a usb hard drive in it. if i just plug a HDD in there will it be able to create a NAS ? I need to do some research on how i would be able to save files to or store/move around the network without my PC being on.

do i need a mini graphics card like the Nano cards from AMD or gtx 960 mini ?

HDMI audio isn't really an issue quality wise, but unless you want a full receiver, good luck finding audio equipment that will actually accept a HDMI input.

USB external is fine so long as you pick one up that has enough inputs/outputs for whatever your setup is.

NAS via USB port on router works, so long as the router is up to the task. You'll have to look up the specific router and check that is plays nicely. Some of them have the port, but don't really have the processing power to handle the task without lockups or have poorly written software for it.

You MIGHT need a small size card. It just depends on the case you pick. Some ITX cases will accommodate full size cards, some won't. Same goes for power supplies actually.
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side note: using ps4 controller on pc is fantastic, really easy to do, im playing resident evil remastered on my pc now with it. I'm using the free "Input Mapper" program, makes the pc recognize it as a xbox controller.
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Okay boys lets start picking up parts
Case - ? please recommend one
SSD- Samsung pro 256
HDD - whats a great 2tb HD for 70 bucks ?
Graphics card - 970x mini
motherboard - GA-H170N-WIFI
PSU - no idea here either. whats the best one for like 80 bucks that fits?
CPU- i5 6600k

hows the build looking so far ? ill use the 8gb of my ddr3 ram i have now so i can upgrade main PC to 16gb ddr4. i want the case to look like a gaming console. something sophisticated and sleek
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post #17 of 19
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When i move into my new apartment i want to make a second computer so that guests may use it on a TV as a movie /music / photo player, home theater. But it would be cool if i somehow also was able to have it play games like League of Legends, and other multiplayer computer games. That way they don't have to game on a laptop or something while i still be using mine. Whats the best route to go from here? I have 8gb G.Skill ripjaws that ill be removing from my main pc to this one. i want a small ITX build that looks elegant since i won't get an xbox/ps4 and will strictly just want to game on windows. Any suggestions where to start ? Thanks

Yes you can.

If you don't want to spend so much, you can look into getting used parts to power your system.

My current HTPC runs the following kit:

- Phenom II X4 925 @ 3.0
- Biostar TA890GXE
- 12GB (2x4 + 2x2) RAM
- AMD Reference HD 7870 GHz (external exhaust is important)
- Creative Audigy RX 7.1 Soundcard
- Lite On 465W OEM PSU
- Lite On OEM BD-ROM

All housed in a Jonsbo G3 casing with 'cosmetic enhancements' to make it look more like a harman/kardon AVR than ever.
The system is adequate for gaming and more than capable of playing full-HD material.

I'm looking to upgrade to a used Z68 Pro3-M and i5 2400 together with a 660/760 192-bit OEM and 320W Dell 80PLUS Gold PSU for more silence and better energy efficiency.
You can do this too smile.gif

If you wanna run ITX with modern stuff, grab a base model i5 and this will cover you neatly.
Graphics wise, you can consider the Zotac 1060 Mini for some very decent graphics firepower (I'd love to recommend the more sensible RX480 but at the moment no one's making a "mini").

If you don't want to spend that much, 750Ti's and 950's are still around for very good prices to give you more than adequate full-HD and beyond video processing power, though 4K gaming is obviously not advised.
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Okay boys lets start picking up parts
Case - ? please recommend one
SSD- Samsung pro 256
HDD - whats a great 2tb HD for 70 bucks ?
Graphics card - 970x mini
motherboard - GA-H170N-WIFI
PSU - no idea here either. whats the best one for like 80 bucks that fits?
CPU- i5 6600k

hows the build looking so far ? ill use the 8gb of my ddr3 ram i have now so i can upgrade main PC to 16gb ddr4. i want the case to look like a gaming console. something sophisticated and sleek

Well into overkill, but it will work.

You really don't need an i5 for an HTPC, and certainly not a K model, but it won't do any harm if you have the cash I suppose.

970 is also a bit much, and in this case you are dumping extra heat into the case for little reason, but if you want to play some more serious games at high frame rates when the system is on game console duty, then I suppose it makes some sense. You'll probably want to underclock and undervolt it for HTPC duty though.

Motherboard is fine for what you want to do. Audio on it is OK and you might not need any additional audio components as long as your speakers are self-powered and aren't approaching or exceeding the cost of the rest of the system combined, so that is a nice bonus.

I would just pick up whatever hard drive to be honest. Hard drives are a mature technology and you aren't doing anything particularly taxing with yours, so just price shop for the lowest cost.

I personally like the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv iTX, but cases are a personal choice. If you want something that lays flat, you are unfortunately going to pay a premium for it, but there are some decent options for under $100 if you aren't too picky on aesthetics.

PSU is going to depend on the case you buy (well, unless you want to fit the case to the PSU), so that recommendation is going to have to wait.
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Check out the Silverstone RVZ02 case, personal opinion but one of my favourite mITX cases. I'm considering swapping my SG05.

Not sure I would bother with a K processor, if you overclock then it will be more difficult to keep quiet.

Don't buy a 970 at the moment unless getting a very good deal. Also unless there is a specific case you like that needs it probably avoid mini card versions as they will be noisier, quite a few mITX cases will take pretty long cards.

The RX470 is being released in a few days and may be a good fit if you can wait a while.

An SFX psu will give you more choice for smaller cases so would be my preference even though may cost a bit more. Check out Corsair or Silverstone. 450W should be more than you would ever need (I'm running an R9 390 on a 450W SFX).

Similarly I would go with a 2.5" HDD in the computer to save space (bigger 3.5" drives can be network attached out of sight...).

You mentioned using a HDD in your router and I did this before with an old Asus RT56U and it worked but was pretty slow, if you have a newer model it should be better. I've since picked up a second hand synology NAS though and the difference is night and day in terms of both performance and functionality.

Enjoy!

...and if wanting to cut some cost then you would probably be fine with an i3 and picking up a second hand 950, 380 or similar.
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