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None of this sounds remotely plausible. Think about the implications of a 16-lane CPU sharing a socket and platform with a 44-lane CPU. It would be like the 28-lane 5820k and 6800k to the extreme, making most of the expansion slots completely unusable. Additionally, different memory channels supported? Yeah right. That's not going to feasible on the same platform unless you prevent half the DIMM slots from being populated.
I'm pretty sure the PCH is limited to 4x lanes per expansion slot ... that leave you with atleast 6 expansion slot controlled by the PCH itself (a mix of M.2 and physical 8x or 4x or 1x PCIe slot) and up to three physical 16x slot controlled by the CPU (16x or 8x/8x or 8x/4x/4x). Current modern CPU only support up to two DIMM per channel, 4 DPC has never been done and they don't say anywhere if KL-X can do 4DPC, sooo who knows if that's possible ?!! Anyway to me it sound plausible ...
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I'm pretty sure the PCH is limited to 4x lanes per expansion slot ... that leave you with 6 expansion slot controlled by the PCH itself (M.2 and physical 8x or 4x PCIe slot) and up to three physical 16x slot controlled by the CPU (16x or 8x/8x or 8x/4x/4x). Current modern CPU only support up to two DIMM per channel, 4 DPC has never been done and they don't say anywhere if KL-X can do 4DPC, sooo who knows if that's possible ?!! Anyway to me it sound plausible ...

Great! Except those six expansion slots will always be controlled by the PCH regardless of the CPU used. So Kaby Lake users will see all 16 of their CPU lanes go to use, while Skylake users will see 28 of theirs completely unused. Alternatively, some kind of ridiculously expensive and high-speed switch could be used but, then, what's the point of a shared platform?

There's no real reason to do this anyway. Imagine if, a few years ago, we saw the Ivy Bridge i7-3770k working on the same motherboards as the Sandy Bridge i7-3960X. You're driving up Ivy users' motherboard prices and complexity, and you're restricting Sandy users' options dramatically.

As for four DIMMs per channel. Yeah. That has never been done. I think the most I've seen is three. You can use a lot more with registered memory, but that's expensive stuff for servers and not really relevant here. I'm not sure why there's a limitation to be honest, but it is there. And, again, without a switch it won't really be usable. AMD's current laptop socket, for example, takes SoCs with both one and two memory channels, but basically everything out there is single-channel. I assume it's to save costs and make it compatible with all SoCs, but that's what we would have to see if this platform existed.
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Question, Is Skylake s processors overclock able? Are the K SKUs under the S processor line?
Almost looks like them trying to merge the K's into the E's to form the X platform.
It's just really strange that SLX is 6-10 core and KLX is just 4 core. PCIE lanes match mainstream don't they?
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None of this sounds remotely plausible. Think about the implications of a 16-lane CPU sharing a socket and platform with a 44-lane CPU. It would be like the 28-lane 5820k and 6800k to the extreme, making most of the expansion slots completely unusable. Additionally, different memory channels supported? Yeah right. That's not going to feasible on the same platform unless you prevent half the DIMM slots from being populated.
either this is fake or intel is going backwards. the 4 core cpus arent being unlocked and they are only 6,8,10 also Kaby lake should be an improvement to Skylake not backwards
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The normal Kaby lake is still going to use socket 1151?
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don't tell me KLX 10C is Q2 2018?
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PCI-E 4.0
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still 4c/8t, even more expensive I presume LOL

What a joke. Won't buy their CPU even if it's faster than Zen, which will be the case
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New skt all ready , i guess they have to sell boards
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Kabby Lake X @ 4 cores with 114w TDP on LGA 2066 redface.gif


I thought the next skylake x/ep was supposed to be LGA 3647 http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52336/intels-next-gen-skylake-processor-arrive-lga-3647-socket/index.html
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