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I need to build a new system and I want to go with the I5 6600K as the CPU. I use to be good with computer systems but it been awhile since I attempt to upgrade. The new motherboards are confusing because there is too much information on all the boards and it is all sounding like Greek now. The biggest reason I want to upgrade is that I have retired and I want to play some of the new games. The main one I want to play right now is Fallout 4. This thing requires a fast system to play. I have decided to go with the I5 6600K CPU but I need to know about a case, Motherboard, Memory and cooling. I want to be able to overclock the machine when I am playing my games. This is become a learning experience. I think first I need to find a good motherboard that is easy and dependable to overclock (first time trying it). Every time I think that I have found one I see a review or comment somewhere talking about the horrors of it. The ones that I am considering right now are: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO, MSI Pro Solution Intel Z170A, or the GIGABYTE G1 Gaming GA-Z170X-Gaming 7. I don’t know which company provides the most support but that is a big consideration for me also. How about helping out a retired VET.
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I need to build a new system and I want to go with the I5 6600K as the CPU. I use to be good with computer systems but it been awhile since I attempt to upgrade. The new motherboards are confusing because there is too much information on all the boards and it is all sounding like Greek now. The biggest reason I want to upgrade is that I have retired and I want to play some of the new games. The main one I want to play right now is Fallout 4. This thing requires a fast system to play. I have decided to go with the I5 6600K CPU but I need to know about a case, Motherboard, Memory and cooling. I want to be able to overclock the machine when I am playing my games. This is become a learning experience. I think first I need to find a good motherboard that is easy and dependable to overclock (first time trying it). Every time I think that I have found one I see a review or comment somewhere talking about the horrors of it. The ones that I am considering right now are: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO, MSI Pro Solution Intel Z170A, or the GIGABYTE G1 Gaming GA-Z170X-Gaming 7. I don’t know which company provides the most support but that is a big consideration for me also. How about helping out a retired VET.

Hello! All these mobos are pretty high-end. If your budget allows it, you can't go wrong with either. You'll also be fine with a mid-range mobo, look into AsRock's products.

The CPU you picked is great, just be careful when installing your cooler, Skylake CPUs (Intel 6xxx series) are known to be easily broken by some third-party coolers.

As for RAM, no need to pay top dollar there, mid-range DDR4 will do you just as much good as the overpriced hyper-OCed shiny top-end products they push to people with $$ to burn smile.gif

Your biggest consideration has to be the GPU, and currently we are in an interesting time in the GPU world. Both companies (AMD and Nvidia) released great new products, both have some problems (power draw and latency), AMD seem to be ahead at the moment, because they fixed the power draw issue in a driver update, and also their cards provide killer performance in Dx12 and Vulkan, and still great price/performance ratio in Dx11. Nvidia is probably the more reliable brand, but every fanboy will tell you a different story.
Just do NOT buy a previous generation card. The last gen are great in both price and performance.

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So, this is what I am thinking so far:
Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO
CPU: I5 6600K
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (until I get a new case)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000
What’s your opinion? Any changes you think I should make?
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I changed my mind. My son said to go ahead and get the I7 6700 CPU and use the regular cooler but I would be prepare to overclock just by changing the cooler in the future.

Would the I7 function alright with this cooler inside a Cosair 550D case. Would it get enough air to keep cool? If I don't overclock.

Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO
CPU: I7 6700K
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (until I get a new case)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000
What’s your opinion? Any changes you think I should make?
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If I were you, I'd cool with this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9ZH3N29801&cm_re=scythe_ninja_4-_-13K-0014-00002-_-Product

I don't know about i7 and the Cryorig, we have i7 6700 in our server rig, and beQuiet Pure Rock, which is a 150W TDP cooler is finding it had to cool it down on STOCK!
The Cryorig is rated for 140W TDP, so I wouldn't slap it on an i7.

EDIT: I have a Ninja 3b, the previous model, it's the best cooler I've had.
Edited by ronnin426850 - 7/19/16 at 12:47am
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I changed my mind. My son said to go ahead and get the I7 6700 CPU and use the regular cooler but I would be prepare to overclock just by changing the cooler in the future.

Would the I7 function alright with this cooler inside a Cosair 550D case. Would it get enough air to keep cool? If I don't overclock.

Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO
CPU: I7 6700K
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (until I get a new case)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000
What’s your opinion? Any changes you think I should make?

I think these parts look great. Also, I would agree with ronnin, and the cooler he picked would be perfect. Not much bigger, and has better performance for a few dollars more. My friend has that same motherboard with a 6700k, and it has been great. Has all of the overclocking options you need to get a good clock out of the chip, and it looks good while doing it! What GPU are you thinking of running?
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I think these parts look great. Also, I would agree with ronnin, and the cooler he picked would be perfect. Not much bigger, and has better performance for a few dollars more. My friend has that same motherboard with a 6700k, and it has been great. Has all of the overclocking options you need to get a good clock out of the chip, and it looks good while doing it! What GPU are you thinking of running?


Radeon 6800 but I am going to be watching the GTX 1080 and hopefully something new comes out that makes it price drop. If not I might try a RX 480. If I added another Radeon 6800 in a Crossfire configuration would it actually improve the performance?
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Radeon 6800 but I am going to be watching the GTX 1080 and hopefully something new comes out that makes it price drop. If not I might try a RX 480. If I added another Radeon 6800 in a Crossfire configuration would it actually improve the performance?

It's not a good idea. Those cards are old now, high power draw, crap performance by today's standard. Use 1 until you get something better. Two of these is just burning money smile.gif
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Radeon 6800 but I am going to be watching the GTX 1080 and hopefully something new comes out that makes it price drop. If not I might try a RX 480. If I added another Radeon 6800 in a Crossfire configuration would it actually improve the performance?

Yeah I had multi GPU before, aside from benchmarks gaming on them wasn't the most pleasent experience. Not all games support it so it can be very frustrating. I mean I loved the power, but when you had to go down to one it was a real buzzkill. I would recomend a single strong GPU any day over SLI/CFX. Much more enjoyable in my opinion. A single 1080 would match my 970s in SLI, for a little less money. I'd go for the 1080 if budget permits.
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