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So what's the solution? Relabel the benchmark as DX11? Pull it and re-release it with more async? I don't care either way as it is just for fun anyway. Might be kinda cool to see a true DX12 benchmark even if it ran like dog on Nvidia cards. biggrin.gif
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sounds like some oc.net members not liking TimeSpy results ...

Don't start.
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This is not about some fan war, on that note as OP can I ban people from posting here?
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This is not about some fan war, on that note as OP can I ban people from posting here?

Nope, but you can try to convince everyone to put him on ignore list.
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the problem I think is that 3dmark should not really try to go either way, it should just follow what games are trying to do... time will tell.
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So what's the solution? Relabel the benchmark as DX11?

DX 11.3 would be fair. DX12 is a low level API. Currently, the benchmark has no independent hardware vendor (IHV) specific paths hard-coded so it is disingenuous to call it DX12.

Hell, both AMD and Nvidia agree that developers should stick to DX 11 if they cant incorporate IHV specific paths

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sounds like some oc.net members not liking TimeSpy results ...
Oh Come on. The devil is in the details, isn't it? Doesn't it seem odd that a DX12 benchmark doesn't use one of its key features nearly enough?
post #27 of 253
In the end, a benchmark is all this is. Maybe the use of Async Compute is just an average they expect to be used in future games. (where they would've gotten that average, beats me).What matters at this point is that there are already real world games that have shown MUCH better improvements when using the GCN architecture. So it's up to enthusiasts to not consider Time Spy a valid DX12 benchmark. Simple.
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I think 3Dmark should try to get the best performance with methods possible in games. Currently it's optimized for Pascal. I don't mind that no game is optimized for Pascal this way, they might be later if it's not too much hassle. But there should be a render path that utilize GCN to at least what actual games do. Otherwise it's useless benchmark for anything GCN related.

Whether to use other features like conservative rasterization is a question and should be approached the same way. If those features are realistically worth implementing for game developers, implement them (options to turn off if possible).
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feels like testing a race car around a track with a bottle of water under the throttle pedal. Suits the competition just fine i suppose.



And so it becomes a demoscene instead of a benchmark. Something pretty to look at.
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3D Mark have been pulling the wool over people's eyes for years.
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