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Skylake doesn't support quad channel, so there's nothing there to be worth it. You have to jump to something like Haswell-E or Broadwell-E to get quad channel support.
ah ok, thanks, i did not know that!

this look ok?

do the timings still make a noticeable difference? ive seen this with cl15 instead of 13. about £3 difference. I assume it doesnt' really matter.
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ah ok, thanks, i did not know that!

this look ok?

do the timings still make a noticeable difference? ive seen this with cl15 instead of 13. about £3 difference. I assume it doesnt' really matter.
I'd lean towards a 3000 CL15 kit over 2666 CL13. From what I've seen, it looked to be one of the better combinations of price & performance. If you don't have anything against Corsiar, this kit would work & is the same price as the kit you listed.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-24000c15-3000mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b30-my-445-cs.html
They also have a kit with better secondary timings for cheaper, but it has taller heat spreaders & I don't know anything about the brand. It's up to you whether that's worth it. Maybe someone else on here can say whether Team Group RAM is any good.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-group-dark-pro-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-24000c15-3000mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-red-tdprd416g30-my-071-tg.html
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thanks guys,

have made a few changes though - think i've decided to go for the Asus z170 pro (not a, and not pro gaming). its a shame that amazon don't seem to be doing the 'free doom' deal (and i can't find anyone here in the uk who is for similar money), otherwise it would've be a steal at not much more than the MSI carbon (basically the two boards i settled on). prefer the look of the carbon, but get the feeling the asus is the better of the two.

also going to swap up the corsair for a super flow leadex 650 for the same price.

and yeah, had pretty much decided against the m.2 slot - it was just to annoy a friend who has made a build and bought a cheap 2nd hand one biggrin.gif

probably going to stick in a second hand 970 until the prices of the 1070s become less ridiculous. i don't really want to encourage that pricing. that and i've a 1080p monitor. i'll probably bite the bullet when i go to 1440

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Asus motherboard is probably better. The software Asus is using is pretty great. 5-way optimization and all that.

I would do the Corsair there customer support is I would say the best in the industry.

Don't nit pick RAM, find something pretty from a company with great customer support, warranty, and go with it. I usually go with G.Skill. Populating all slots might reduce your overclock a tiny amount but the speeds don't really matter with gaming unless you are using integrated graphics. Anymore you don't need to worry about RAM other than size unless you are using professional applications, everything else is just synthetics and e-peen.

Save the M.2 for a future upgrade. Get the SSD you were originally going to get. The performance between HDD and SATA SSD is massive. The difference between SATA SSD and M.2 / NVMe SSD in the real world isn't that big and this build isn't really the kind of build that is in the overkill price range.
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I'd lean towards a 3000 CL15 kit over 2666 CL13. From what I've seen, it looked to be one of the better combinations of price & performance. If you don't have anything against Corsiar, this kit would work & is the same price as the kit you listed.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-24000c15-3000mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b30-my-445-cs.html
They also have a kit with better secondary timings for cheaper, but it has taller heat spreaders & I don't know anything about the brand. It's up to you whether that's worth it. Maybe someone else on here can say whether Team Group RAM is any good.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team-group-dark-pro-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-pc4-24000c15-3000mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-red-tdprd416g30-my-071-tg.html

how about 3200 at CL16? otherwise i'll go for that 3000 kit you mention
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Asus motherboard is probably better. The software Asus is using is pretty great. 5-way optimization and all that.

I would do the Corsair there customer support is I would say the best in the industry.

Don't nit pick RAM, find something pretty from a company with great customer support, warranty, and go with it. I usually go with G.Skill. Populating all slots might reduce your overclock a tiny amount but the speeds don't really matter with gaming unless you are using integrated graphics. Anymore you don't need to worry about RAM other than size unless you are using professional applications, everything else is just synthetics and e-peen.

Save the M.2 for a future upgrade. Get the SSD you were originally going to get. The performance between HDD and SATA SSD is massive. The difference between SATA SSD and M.2 / NVMe SSD in the real world isn't that big and this build isn't really the kind of build that is in the overkill price range.

its so hard not to nit pick everything!


also, i ended up having to go for the be quiet dark rock cooler (which apparently is MASSIVE). i didn't realise this (because i'd checked clearance for the cryorig h7), and have found I've 3mm of clearance in a cooltek w4. i'm hoping that'll be ok, or i'll have to look into an aio
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how about 3200 at CL16? otherwise i'll go for that 3000 kit you mention
its so hard not to nit pick everything!


also, i ended up having to go for the be quiet dark rock cooler (which apparently is MASSIVE). i didn't realise this (because i'd checked clearance for the cryorig h7), and have found I've 3mm of clearance in a cooltek w4. i'm hoping that'll be ok, or i'll have to look into an aio
The 3200 kit is faster than what I listed, but you're talking about spending 8.5% more for a 1% spec gain (which will translate to less than 1% performance improvement). Whether that's worth it is up to you. At some point you see diminishing returns. The reason I mentioned the 3000 kit is because it was a performance improvement that didn't cost any additional money. The other question is what does OverclockersUK charge for shipping?
If it were my money, if OverclockersUK offers free shipping I would go with the 3000 kit from them. If they charge more than £5 shipping, I'd buy the 3200 kit from Amazon.

As far as your cooler goes, clearance is clearance. It is cutting it close, but as long as there are no surprises, it sounds like you should be fine.
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post #16 of 17
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decided on the Gigabyte z170x ultra, mainly because of looks at there was a good deal with steam vouchers too.

also, on the ram front
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The 3200 kit is faster than what I listed, but you're talking about spending 8.5% more for a 1% spec gain (which will translate to less than 1% performance improvement). Whether that's worth it is up to you. At some point you see diminishing returns. The reason I mentioned the 3000 kit is because it was a performance improvement that didn't cost any additional money. The other question is what does OverclockersUK charge for shipping?
If it were my money, if OverclockersUK offers free shipping I would go with the 3000 kit from them. If they charge more than £5 shipping, I'd buy the 3200 kit from Amazon.

As far as your cooler goes, clearance is clearance. It is cutting it close, but as long as there are no surprises, it sounds like you should be fine.

fingers crossed! thanks for the help - i'll probably try getting the 3000 ram from amazon


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I'm not sure how much has changed with RAM in the last few years, but I doubt you will notice any difference in performance from higher frequencies or tighter timings. Just buy a kit from a reputable company with heat spreaders you don't find ugly. The main reason I'm probably never buying G. Skill is I think their heat spreaders are uglier than sin. I would rarely see them once installed, but the thought of those being in my case doesn't sit well with me.

tl;dr Don't stress too much over which RAM to buy. You'll only notice a performance difference in benchmarks.
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