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I guess I am, after all, just a 60Hz "pleb" as you say but that's just an asinine statement. 110 FPS is virtually indistinguishable from 120 FPS on a 120Hz monitor, especially with GSYNC/FreeSync. I would really LOVE to make you do a blind test between 110 and 120 FPS and see just how well you can actually distinguish the difference without an FPS counter on the screen. Oh yes, I'm sure you will say that your eyes are just so super amazing that they can detect the difference of 1 FPS at 150 Hz but I'd like to see you prove it...

I bet he couldn't tell the difference between 90-120. I know I couldn't. 60-100 is a huge difference. 100+ not so much. Just a marketing gimmick unless you're a professional CSGO player who is so incredibly good that .000001 seconds is the difference of killing or being killed.
 
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Open beta is pretty open.

Do we have a date. Absolutely can't wait to try it out.
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I bet he couldn't tell the difference between 90-120. I know I couldn't. 60-100 is a huge difference. 100+ not so much. Just a marketing gimmick unless you're a professional CSGO player who is so incredibly good that .000001 seconds is the difference of killing or being killed.

It's not really a marketing gimmick. Backlight strobing blur reduction for example pretty much has to be done at 120 Hz or more to avoid terribly annoying flicker. Also, lots of people can distinguish up to around 120 Hz/FPS. I do expect more than 144 Hz to be a gimmick though.
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Open beta is pretty open.

Ah, I didn't realize it was in beta biggrin.gif.
It will be soon. And it's open to everyone.
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Do we have a date. Absolutely can't wait to try it out.
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144 Hz.

Try gaming with ULMB/LB off and see if you notice the same sorts of artifacts.

OK, sure.

Bahaha yes, that would be the best test. I'm GPU-less at the moment, haha, but now back on 60Hz standard (useless iGPUs from Intel), it's not too much different than 120Hz. I think you definitely get used to ULMB/LB.
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Backlight strobing blur reduction for example pretty much has to be done at 120 Hz or more to avoid terribly annoying flicker.

Flicker reduces with refresh rate. Also the backlight strobing, if anything, causes flicker instead of reducing it.

Now at 144hz with the Benq backlight strobing I am in heaven. It is the smoothest and clearest gaming experience I've ever played.

Only thing that could make it better was if they somehow figured out a way to make it work freesync/gsync. I'm not really sure if trying to increase the framerate of the monitor in multiples of the framerate given dynamically would work, though. It may just be impossible, but I'd love if someone figured out a way.
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With freesync on my 144hz, every drop bellow ~110hz is noticeable. Feels stuttery.

not a freesync problem. Its just how our eyes get used to 144hz.
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Flicker reduces with refresh rate. Also the backlight strobing, if anything, causes flicker instead of reducing it.

That was kind of my point. Let me reword it: blur reduction (strobing) is excessively flickery at 100 Hz and below, and something I didn't mention earlier is that it has a lot of ghosting at 100 Hz and below too. Blur reduction needs to be paired with a 120 Hz or higher refresh rate in order to avoid excess flicker and ghosting. Because of this, 120 Hz and above is no gimmick.

Another consequence of this is that even if they did find a way to make it work with variable refresh rate without adding tons of input lag, it wouldn't be all that helpful due to the flickering and ghosting presented when running blur reduction below 120 Hz. What good is a range of 30-144 Hz when anything under 120 (or maybe 115) looks bad?

Also, contrary to what that other guy said, I can notice the difference between 100 FPS, 120 FPS, and 144 FPS (without blur reduction so just comparing the frame rates). I can't imagine noticing anything above 144 FPS though, as 144 looks so real.

Getting back to BF1 though, I wish they tested higher than 1080p. It isn't 2011 anymore. But it looks like a system like mine wouldn't be able to run it with blur reduction at 2560 x 1440. Frame rate won't be high enough to make it worthwhile. I wonder if DX12 will run worse on NVIDIA cards than DX11?

Also based on that "real life mode" video it looks like BF1 has the best graphics of any released game, although the particle effects are disappointing. Too bad BioWare couldn't do a good job optimizing their Frostbite 3 game, I really hope they fix that and take after SW: Battlefront and BF1's optimization.
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Getting back to BF1 though, I wish they tested higher than 1080p
they have on source link

1080 gets 95 avg fps 1440p
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they have on source link

1080 gets 95 avg fps 1440p

I see, that's nice. The site is blocked here so I can't view the source. Can't really complain about 95 FPS average though. And to think that's only an alpha build.
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