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I always wonder how these shooter games are worth buying for the single-only players. You pay $60 for <20 hours of playtime? Or play it over and over? The only reason modern shooters even have a single player is to avoid the backlash seen with Titanfall. They really don't need the campaign for the game to make money.

Yeah these MP-focused shooters shouldn't be more than $30. Too repetitive, and too little content especially at launch and especially this franchise at launch. Even with all the DLC I don't think a Battlefield game is worth more than $40 total.
 
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Given how well battlefield has treated SLI in the past, looks like my creaky 770s will be able to run the game quite well. These things bay be the longest running GPUs to date.
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Yeah these MP-focused shooters shouldn't be more than $30. Too repetitive, and too little content especially at launch and especially this franchise at launch. Even with all the DLC I don't think a Battlefield game is worth more than $40 total.

Well speak for yourself. I am a COD player so I already have 230 hours in Black Ops 3 and we don't even have the last two DLC yet. I have like 9 hours in the single player with my one playthrough lol so depending on how much a player likes a game the $100 I paid for pre-order + season pass is well worth it already and I am not even close to being done with the game yet.

But yea I plan on picking up BF1 and Titanfall2 for <$40 each and buying no DLC. This to replace Infinite Warfare (which looks like trash to me).
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Yeah these MP-focused shooters shouldn't be more than $30. Too repetitive, and too little content especially at launch and especially this franchise at launch. Even with all the DLC I don't think a Battlefield game is worth more than $40 total.
Care to explain how SP games are NOT repetitive? Aside from RPG's, there's very little wiggle room in the way you can complete a campaign or story. The one exception is if the game has a lot of quests, side-missions, or collectibles, but even those have to be well done and well implemented for them not to feel like artificial depth.

Judging, historically, by how many hours players put into MP games in relation to SP games, one can assess that the former are more able to entertain and provide a more diverse experience each time.

Online FPS games like BF are particularly apt at that concept, as you'll constantly be challenged by your peers to do better every time.

As an addendum, my favorite games of all time are all SP games. They provided me an unmatched experience, albeit only for whatever duration that they did. Still didn't play them nearly as much time as i did online games.
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I think a New Game+ mode would really help with the longevity of SP games.

Of the few shooters that had them, I enjoyed the second playthrough very much.
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Care to explain how SP games are NOT repetitive? Aside from RPG's, there's very little wiggle room in the way you can complete a campaign or story. The one exception is if the game has a lot of quests, side-missions, or collectibles, but even those have to be well done and well implemented for them not to feel like artifical depth.

Judging, historically, by how many hours players put into MP games in relation to SP games, one can assess that the former are more able to entertain and provide a more diverse experience each time.

Online FPS games like BF are particularly apt at that concept, as you'll constantly be challenged by your peers to do better every time.

As an addendum, my favorite games of all time are all SP games. They provided me an unmatched experience, albeit only for whatever duration that they did. Still didn't play them nearly as much time as i did online games.

A good single player shooter at least has you doing different (and hopefully more complex, e.g. not just kill all others) tasks for about 10-12 hours, with more than a dozen locations. While every match of Battlefield and the like have the same goal. What this translates to is, Battlefield should have more maps at launch and I'd like more complex game modes even though the goal will always be repetitive; such is the nature of the genre. $60 for about a dozen maps and, in previous cases but thankfully not this one, so many reused assets, is a ripoff.

But you said it yourself, "aside from RPG's." It depends on the genre. As far as multiplayer shooters go, something like ArmA provides way more diversity and content than something like Battlefield.
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I think a New Game+ mode would really help with the longevity of SP games.

Of the few shooters that had them, I enjoyed the second playthrough very much.

That just takes away all balance and isn't much different than using cheats or hacks. Not something I personally enjoy for more than 15 minutes or so.
 
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I think a New Game+ mode would really help with the longevity of SP games.

Of the few shooters that had them, I enjoyed the second playthrough very much.

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A good single player shooter at least has you doing different (and hopefully more complex, e.g. not just kill all others) tasks for about 10-12 hours, with more than a dozen locations. While every match of Battlefield and the like have the same goal. What this translates to is, Battlefield should have more maps at launch and I'd like more complex game modes even though the goal will always be repetitive; such is the nature of the genre. $60 for about a dozen maps and, in previous cases but thankfully not this one, so many reused assets, is a ripoff.

But you said it yourself, "aside from RPG's." It depends on the genre. As far as multiplayer shooters go, something like ArmA provides way more diversity and content than something like Battlefield.
That just takes away all balance and isn't much different than using cheats or hacks. Not something I personally enjoy for more than 15 minutes or so.

COD isn't a good example for great single player campaigns, but what has me wanting to play through it again are two things: 4 player co-op, and you can turn on "Nightmares" mode which replaces any robotoc enemies with zombies. It is cool how they adapted the original campaign and replaced cut-scenes with new voice-overs adapting the story into a zombies story. I think it is quite clever.
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BF is an action shooter...ArmA takes too much time to prep for a session, too long to see action etc...its more of a sim than an action game.
With BF and the such, you just jump directly into fighting, but you can also log-out at any given moment with no real impact on the overall game.
Qualities valuable to serious gamers that have things in RL distracting them.

I agree that a great SP campaign is desirable, but the vast majority of BF players will spend 10s if not 100s of time more into MP maps than the campaign, so, if I had to pick resources being allocated on one or the other mode, I would personally pick the MP.
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That just takes away all balance and isn't much different than using cheats or hacks. Not something I personally enjoy for more than 15 minutes or so.

Well with different difficulty settings, the beauty of it is you can choose how you want to experience your second playthrough. You can choose to feel like a god if you so inclined, or you could ramp up the difficulty and enjoy a new challenge.
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Well with different difficulty settings, the beauty of it is you can choose how you want to experience your second playthrough. You can choose to feel like a god if you so inclined, or you could ramp up the difficulty and enjoy a new challenge.

I suppose it depends on the game, I've simply never found one that can be challenging on New Game+ even on the hardest difficulty.
 
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