If you thought Sony was done announcing new TVs for the year at CES 2016, you were mistaken. Today, Sony unveiled the Z series, a new line of LCD televisions that it says is its best and brightest yet. It runs on Android TV just like the rest of Sony's stable, but the big deal with this new flagship line of 4K HDR Ultra HD TVs is its Backlight Master Drive technology. This tech, which we saw in prototype form at CES, aims to bring a brightness and contrast that'll rival the richness of OLED sets.
My next purchase was going to be a 4k, OLED, HDR and non-curved TV so looks like I will not be purchasing a Sony TV - as I used to be a fan of the older XBR series. Now I don't know how well this will compare to OLED...
Not surprising. Even the top Vizio (which is a cheap brand) models start at $6000. https://www.vizio.com/r-series
edit: just noticed that Vizio says that reference model has a 120Hz input on it for games...
120Hz input, 1440Hz effective from frame insertion/interpolation and strobing the backlight. Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Vizio, etc all have TVs that do this and have had them a long time. Some models strobe, so use a scanning style backlight, old models just insert black frames with the interpolation. Just because they dont call it ULMB doesnt mean they dont have the same thing. No one can call it ULMB but Nvidia, it is their special name for it. Sony calls theirs MotionFlow, Samsung calls it Supreme MR, Panasonic has two different ones: Backlight Scanning Drive (BLS) and Backlight Motion Rate (BMR). Panasonic's top model is a 3,000Hz BMR. Oh and Vizio calls theirs Clear Action.
Well, the one good thing I can say about UHD TV's so far is that they make UHD monitors seem reasonably priced by comparison. I'll stick to Netflix at 1080p -or- streamed in UHD on my desktop until somebody can release an UHD TV, OLED, that won't require me to prepare blood offerings to Cthulhu.
Well, the one good thing I can say about UHD TV's so far is that they make UHD monitors seem reasonably priced by comparison. I'll stick to Netflix at 1080p -or- streamed in UHD on my desktop until somebody can release an UHD TV, OLED, that won't require me to prepare blood offerings to Cthulhu.
That is not true. There are plenty of entry level UHD TVs that are comparable in price to entry level UHD monitors. There really are no high end monitors to compare against these high end TV prices.
I'd rather go the TV route these days, tbh. Would rather sit back on a 60+" 4K TV (even 1080p) then sit, crammed at a desk, with an overpriced Asus/Acer with horrible QC issues. Prices in the monitor world are still flat out crazy for what you're actually getting.
That is not true. There are plenty of entry level UHD TVs that are comparable in price to entry level UHD monitors. There really are no high end monitors to compare against these high end TV prices.
Sure, it was an off-hand comment about the insane price of super high-end TV's, especially one that's LCD. I paid ~£300 for my monitor which at the time was something like $500 USD. I've seen UHD TV's at or below that price, though most of the ones I'd want are at least a $200 on top of that.
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I'd rather go the TV route these days, tbh. Would rather sit back on a 60+" 4K TV (even 1080p) then sit, crammed at a desk, with an overpriced Asus/Acer with horrible QC issues. Prices in the monitor world are still flat out crazy for what you're actually getting.
I paid ~£300 for my monitor which at the time was something like $500 USD. I've seen UHD TV's at or below that price, though most of the ones I'd want are at least a $200 on top of that.
Is it unreasonable to pay higher for a larger display? I can't even find a mediocre 32" UHD monitor for $700 but I can find a decent 55+" UHD TV for around $700 without much difficulty.
I bought a 75" 2016 Vizio P Series and it has been amazing. They trickled down a lot of tech from the Reference Series to the P. FALD, HDR, 4K, 120Hz on HDMI3. Supports YCBCR 444. None of the Streaming Apps are built into the TV so it's not a slow **** pig and it is one of the best performing TV's in Input Lag. http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/p-series-2016
https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/20/sony-z-series/
My next purchase was going to be a 4k, OLED, HDR and non-curved TV so looks like I will not be purchasing a Sony TV - as I used to be a fan of the older XBR series. Now I don't know how well this will compare to OLED...
I have an older XBR here and while I am no videophile, I think it STILL looks good. We ended up picking up a new Samsung, admittedly from the lower end of the product tree, for our living room. We wanted a larger screen but that XBR absolutely blows it away in the quality department.
Sorry for going a little of topic. It's not every day you see XBR's mentioned
Is it unreasonable to pay higher for a larger display? I can't even find a mediocre 32" UHD monitor for $700 but I can find a decent 55+" UHD TV for around $700 without much difficulty.
Nope, not unreasonable. It's just more than I'll pay for something that I don't really need at the moment. UHD content is limited enough outside of gaming that I've not really got a pressing need for an UHD TV just yet. That's where my commentary about price comes from; if I could find an UHD TV with the screen space, quality, and features that I want for less than $700+ I'd probably get one as an impulse buy. As it stands I'll just wait until prices drop and content availability improves. This is all just my situation, I'm not trying to speak in in universal generalities. I wasn't planning on buying an UHD monitor either, but the price was right and it had the features I wanted.
I bought my Sony XBR-65X930C over 1 year ago and paid $3999.99 and the LG OLED tv's were $6999.99 at that time so I bought it. Great TV sound is amazing with the front facing speakers. But I really wanted the OLED but the price was just to high at the time. Then 6 months had passed and the price went down to $2500 and the LG OLEDs where in the low $4000.00 I was so mad.
I have been buying a ton of Sony stuff lately and so far happy with my items I have bought. The only bad thing I do not like about my TV is when SONY wants to do updates they LOCK the TV tell you do the update and agree to it. There were several times I was ready to sit down on a Friday night to watch a movie and had to wait 30 minutes for the TV to update it really pissed me off.
Go with the OLED TV and never look back...
Stuff I have bought from Sony within 1 year..
Sony XBR-65X930C
Sony BDP-S7200 (3D Blu-ray player with 4K upscaling)
Sony HAP-Z1ES (High-resolution digital music player with 1TB storage drive)
Sony MDR-Z7 Hi-res Headphones
I'd rather go the TV route these days, tbh. Would rather sit back on a 60+" 4K TV (even 1080p) then sit, crammed at a desk, with an overpriced Asus/Acer with horrible QC issues. Prices in the monitor world are still flat out crazy for what you're actually getting.
Not surprising. Even the top Vizio (which is a cheap brand) models start at $6000. https://www.vizio.com/r-series
edit: just noticed that Vizio says that reference model has a 120Hz input on it for games...
Is HDR content only in purchased Ultra HD movies with HDR or can you get it from other sources as well?
Can things actually upscale to HDR or just 4k?
If you have to buy some overpriced $30+ disc for just the one movie and then of course an HDR compatible blu ray player and likely an HDR compatible receiver as well then the price to get into this tech is crazy.
I am seriously going to look into a 60" tv this year, but I am thinking that HDR is not something worth the $500+ premium if it only shows up once you have everything with the new tech as well to play along.
I am thinking a good quality Samsung or Sony 4k tv without HDR is the better bang for my/your buck.
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