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According to the Q2 earning conference:

Zen server chips are currently running at AMD and consumer labs.
Desktop Zen will not be available until 2017. May have limited inventory launch in late Q4 2016.

Source? Because that is not all what was discussed at Computex.
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The live Q2 earnings conference:

http://edge.media-server.com/m/p/6mr7pafn/lan/en

Can find the "Audio Webcast" recording and its transcript once the conference concludes at:

http://quarterlyearnings.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=quarterlyearnings
Edited by Slomo4shO - 7/21/16 at 2:48pm
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According to the Q2 earning conference:

Zen server chips are currently running at AMD and consumer labs.
Desktop Zen will not be available until 2017. May have limited inventory launch in late Q4 2016.

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The live Q2 earnings conference:

http://edge.media-server.com/m/p/6mr7pafn/lan/en

Can find the "Audio Webcast" recording and its transcript once the conference concludes at:

http://quarterlyearnings.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=quarterlyearnings

No where I saw said anything about desktop availability. Data center processors are going to be available early 2017. Desktops are still on track for Q4 2016. Please don't spread FUD.
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No where I saw said anything about desktop availability. Data center processors are going to be available early 2017. Desktops are still on track for Q4 2016. Please don't spread FUD.

The only one spreading FUD is you. You clearly didn't listen in on the conference. I'll get you the quotes from the transcript as soon as they are up.
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The only one spreading FUD is you. You clearly didn't listen in on the conference. I'll get you the quotes from the transcript as soon as they are up.

They are up. I just read them.

She says that in a few weeks that premier partners will receive chips then everyone else afterwards. Zen desktop still on track for Q4 2016.
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You are not running multi threaded high volume scientific calculations on your home desktop. The most "multi threaded" software you are running, is your web browser, when you open several tabs.

Game engines are still more single core focused, even when they can run stuff parallel. Which means single core IPC is still important than 32 cores.
If you have to run 32 cores but reduce their IPC and clocks in order to keep it under check of TDP/heat, you will not get as good performance as a 8/16 or 4/8 which can have higher IPC and higher clocks.
It is also more problematic to OC a 32 core than a 2/4/8 core chips.

Once more next gen game engines comes out, and more parallel computation between a GPU and a CPU come out, we can talk about 32 core CPUs for the desktop.

Also, no, FX do not match i7 because of cores. They are slightly ok in most because of the higher clock speeds at stock (like the 9590 at 4.7ghz) which is only matching an i5 from 3-4 years ago (sometimes less than I3, regardless of cores).

Also, IPC vs IPS, IPC is not meaningless in any way. It only shows that you don't really understand how CPU works.
It falls on overall design. Each design has its own advantages and disadvantages.
A 32 core with low IPC and low clock speeds can have the same IPS as a 4 core CPU with high IPC and high clock speeds, but if you run a program which requires less cores and runs higher short calculations per thread, a high IPC/high core combo will be far, far better than 32 cores with low IPC. This is why in games, you can easily see skylake cpus equaling broadwell-e in games, while FX cpus are barely keeping up.

One last thing:
The FX 9590 has more MIPS than the 4770k (if you look at the 7-zip tests which are measuring MIPS, AMD state 28K for the 9590 vs 21K for the 4770k that 7-zip performance state). Yet the 4770k runs better in almost every test. Which overall means, IPS isn't the do all die all importance.

Actually, the most multi-threaded software I run on a regular basis is music encoding (Sure, LAME and the like are single threaded but typically foobar runs one instance per core meaning an 8 core with half the IPS of a quad core would still be around as fast) and video encoding. Not including the heavy multitasking that manages to keep my i5 at >90%.usage.
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I hope those clock speeds aren't final. Assuming Haswell IPC, Haswell still has a base clock of 4GHZ boost 4.4. Base 2.8 and boost 3.2 isn't going to cut it even if it has twice as many cores.

It's A0 silicon, it's actually pretty good for literally the first working chips afaik. iirc Haswell was around the same clock speeds for its ES' too.
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They are up. I just read them.
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She says that in a few weeks that premier partners will receive chips then everyone else afterwards. Zen desktop still on track for Q4 2016.

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"Zen is still on track" confirms Q4 2016? rolleyes.gif

lol I just realized that it was Q1, regardless watch the computex presentation.
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lol I just realized that it was Q1, regardless watch the computex presentation.

Q2 conference happened today, computex happened more than a month ago. Things change lol. rolleyes.gif
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