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If they are shipping quad core laptop chips, there could be knock-off chips that failed binning that is ready to be relabeled as K chips. But if they are shipping just dual core low power chips, then it could get dicey.

True. Well, I think it is likely mobile chips. Benchlife specifically talks about DESKTOP KL, not mobile, shipping in Nov/Dec. But, Intel, in their Q2 earnings call (original source for OP) said they're already shipping. It must be mobile.
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Kaby lake, rebrand from skylake ? After this refresh, cannonlake, intel has on the pipeline ?

Think will wait for cannon lake to upgrade from ivy bridge. The gap will be enough to upgrade.
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Mainstream 6 cores in 2018 (maybe) - I'd say Intel isn't wary of anything.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Intel's expectations for Zen are as low as mine.
 
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Mainstream 6 cores in 2018 (maybe) - I'd say Intel isn't wary of anything.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Intel's expectations for Zen are as low as mine.


Lower....

There's really no need for intel to release a product that blows their current and previous generation products way out of the water. They've so monopolized the market with AMD not being able to compete at the high end that only mid to low end products from Intel really pair up well against AMD's best... Zen will likely be a flop like this RX 480 is compared to Nvidia's Pascal. The only thing AMD has going for them is price.

Personally I think an upgrade from any generation from the original core series to ivy bridge would be worth it jumping to Sky Lake or upcoming Kaby. Intel might have to get creative in the pricing since their newest product that might be another 4core 8 thread can't really be priced the same as a similar product with 5-10% less performance (Skylake). It wouldn't surprise me if Intel begins to adopt a pricing scale like GPUs. Once new generations come out, previous generations drop in price. Really only socketed laptop CPU's are the ones that drop in price for new generations..
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So Kaby will fit and operate on my b150, with bios update i assume?
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So Kaby will fit and operate on my b150, with bios update i assume?

It is LGA1151 compatiable, so yes.
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Meanwhile AMD is still sleeping in ZEN.
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Yay, yet another 10% performance increase I can skip.
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Meanwhile AMD is still sleeping in ZEN.

You know that dream where no matter how fast you run, you can never get anywhere? That is AMD.

"We cannot compete so we will make cheapest chips" - Intel releases Pentium chips, G3258

"We will add great gpu to cpu to compete" - intel makes own GPU on cpus

"We will make most cores on a cpu" - intel to sell 16 / 32 core i7 chips

Poor AMD
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You know that dream where no matter how fast you run, you can never get anywhere? That is AMD.

"We cannot compete so we will make cheapest chips" - Intel releases Pentium chips, G3258

"We will add great gpu to cpu to compete" - intel makes own GPU on cpus

"We will make most cores on a cpu" - intel to sell 16 / 32 core i7 chips

Poor AMD

You know that is a sad reality, actually. When Intel released Conroe (ripping the performance crown from AMD, ostensibly permanently), people joked that "AMD poked the sleeping giant. They shouldn't have done that."

It seems like it was true. AMD never recovered from Conroe's release in 2006 and I'm unsure they ever will. Jim Keller can work magic, but even after his work, AMD claims they'll be competing with a 3.5GHz Haswell chip while Intel launches Kaby Lake. Intel will be, effectively, 3 generations *ahead* in terms of IPC.
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