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I made several calculations, i will resume shortly.. anandtech tested the 1080gtx with only memory overclocked, 6-7 games were tested at ultra at 4k. Gddr5x Memory overclocked from 10gbps to 11gbps.
With memory bandwith going from 320gb/s to 352gb/s (32gb/s difference)only gain from 0,6fps to 1,3fps was possible. So if titan x has 16gb hbm2 at 720gb/s instead, i calculate the difference.
I will be fair i know titan x will overclock his gddr5x memory to at least 11gbps too. So i will begin from 528gb/s memory bandwith. So make the calcul 720gb/s - 528gb/s = 192gb/s difference. 192gb/s divide by 32gb/s = 6

6 * 0,6 = 3,6fps to 6 *1,3 = 7,8fps

If i understand correctly comeone guys 16gb hbm2 at 720gb/s can only bring 3,6fps to 7,8fps more to the titan x in gaming at ultra at 4k, ITS VERY NEGLIGIBLE, i think its not even worth the price difference for hbm2.

What do think of my calcul logic ? Thanks for your opinion, i can be wrong, i just told you what i think.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/31 ( july 23 )
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The Titan XP might be the 1080 Ti. I would not be surprised if the XP is a cut down core, and Nvidia will release a newer, faster Titan 6 months down the road.

@ $950 for a 1080 Ti, Nvidia would have to drop the 1080 FE to $600 for it to remain a viable option. I don't think they wish to do that.

I do not sea a 1080 Ti coming out anytime soon. Reason is Titan X had 12GB while 980 Ti had 6GB. There is no room for 1080 Ti with 6GB. This Titan XP should have been 24GB to have space for 1080 Ti. What I think is going to happen is 1080 Ti will come 6-7 months after and still have 12GB but at that point Titan XP would have had enough time to sell. Most people that buy Titan cards buy it relatively early.
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I do not sea a 1080 Ti coming out anytime soon. Reason is Titan X had 12GB while 980 Ti had 6GB. There is no room for 1080 Ti with 6GB. This Titan XP should have been 24GB to have space for 1080 Ti. What I think is going to happen is 1080 Ti will come 6-7 months after and still have 12GB but at that point Titan XP would have had enough time to sell. Most people that buy Titan cards buy it relatively early.

That was my thought as well. 12GB of memory at that price for a Titan is a major oversight by Nvidia. This is why I think the 1080 Ti is the Titan XP.

We might see a Titan XP Ultra, or something, with 24GB Vram and a fully enabled GP102 core down the road. This is part of the reason why I don't think the Titan XP is worth the $1200 asking price. It just doesn't measure up to its predecessors.
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That was my thought as well. 12GB of memory at that price for a Titan is a major oversight by Nvidia. This is why I think the 1080 Ti is the Titan XP.

We might see a Titan XP Ultra, or something, with 24GB Vram and a fully enabled GP102 core down the road. This is part of the reason why I don't think the Titan XP is worth the $1200 asking price. It just doesn't measure up to its predecessors.

As much as Nvidia wants to put 24GB I do not think they can. Thats more same vRAM as 3 x 1080s. That's $2100 of GPU. Also G5X is not same as G5. Probably more expensive and harder to make right now. Really hooped for 16GB HMB2 Titan XP and 8GB HBM2 1080 Ti but it did not happen. I know people that got the money will love this card because it will be crazy fast but that what they said for Titan OG and 780 and 290 brought it down. $1200 is just too much not because it's not worth that much but the principle itself. At some point even those with a lot of money will draw a line. This really has nothing to do with AMD. I do not want AMD to build a $1000 Titan XP killer. There should be no competition for Titan XP unless it's half price like 295X2 was to Titan Z.
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24Gb of G5X is house fire.
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The problem is guys, that the professional market completely overshadow the gamers willing to dish out $999 max for a GPU. So Nvidia of course sell the card at $1200.

Its so funny watching people write "just wait til Vega". Thats the whole issue. Waiting. For something that incompetent AMD company cant deliver at this time. So Nvidia runs the ship. No competition. Charge whatever people are willing to pay. Same about the GTX 1080. You can bet that Nvidia knew AMD have fallen behind with high end. So they made plan accordingly

You can bet your house that Nvidia is holding 1080Ti back until Vega is getting close. And thats not happening until 2017 sometime...

Is there any indication GP102 retains all the DP units GP100 had? If not then it wouldn't be much of a professional card.
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Lol, you must be confused, the 6950x is a 10 core chip. it is definitely an upgrade, if you need the cores.....i only "skipped it.." because I couldn't come up with the loot. my old 5960x did 4.5 @1.30 volts, my new one does 4.7 @1.30 volts....I can most likely bring those voltages down, once I really start messing with it.. my single core score in Cinebench is 192.. . smile.gif

Ummm I did say it would depend entirely on how well your 6950X clocks. You have a very good 5960X that clocks to 4.7 @ 1.3, and if you end up with a below average 6950X that can't get past 4.2, then that's still not much of an upgrade.. Plus when it comes to single threaded performance you can throw all the cores at it and it wouldn't matter one bit, and a 5960X @ 4.7 would still beat a 6950X @ 4.2.

Btw with that Cinebench score, you're already beating a 6700K @ 4.4, so pretty good. smile.gif

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24Gb of G5X is house fire.

Campfire, but yea, it would probably run pretty hot.
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Campfire, but yea, it would probably run pretty hot.

Also use a ton of power. Can they even place 24GB of G5X.
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Is there any indication GP102 retains all the DP units GP100 had? If not then it wouldn't be much of a professional card.
Ummm I did say it would depend entirely on how well your 6950X clocks. You have a very good 5960X that clocks to 4.7 @ 1.3, and if you end up with a below average 6950X that can't get past 4.2, then that's still not much of an upgrade.. Plus when it comes to single threaded performance you can throw all the cores at it and it wouldn't matter one bit, and a 5960X @ 4.7 would still beat a 6950X @ 4.2.

Btw with that Cinebench score, you're already beating a 6700K @ 4.4, so pretty good. smile.gif


Tesla P100 aka GP100
3584 cores. 15.3 billion transistors

Titan X aka GP102
3584 cores. 12 billion transistors


Something have been cut off...
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Tesla P100 aka GP100:
3584 cores. 15.3 billion transistors

Titan X aka GP102
3584 cores. 12billion transistors


Something have been cut off...

Could HBM2 have anything to do with it? I mean just look at Fury X. 8.9B
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