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Well whatever board I end up buying, be it a Titan or a 1080, it'll be going under water. EKWB ftw.
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I give it 2 years.

I was thinking we'd have something like an 1180 Ti by very late December 2017 seeing as how all of the 10** GPU's are out and that it would be slightly faster than the new Titan.
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I was thinking we'd have something like an 1180 Ti by very late December 2017 seeing as how all of the 10** GPU's are out and that it would be slightly faster than the new Titan.

We haven't seen the GP100 yet. I think they're holding that back until next year. Use it as the basis for another tier of cards before they get to Volta in 2018.
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It's a Titan. Even if Nvidia weren't selling it directly, the add-in board partners would be prevented from selling it with a non-reference cooler anyway. That's the way it's been with every Titan there's been. It comes with Nvidia's blower cooler or it doesn't come at all.

Gigabyte has a Titan X variant with AIO and also a Windforce edition (Extreme Gaming).

I rmb another TX with artic cooler AIO too, as well as titan Hydro copper from EVGA.


Yes they do come with non-ref option, limted but not completely nil. This time round. Pascal one is nil and that is awful big time. And no, not everyone is a fan of custom loop.
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^ something like this

though with 4096 I absolutely cannot see it beating a stock 1080 (except the usual - in Hitman & Doom Vulkan), at best equaling it


with significantly more than 4096 yeah, but thats gonna be so hard to reach

AMD will disappoint as it always been. To add on what Magnek said. Doubling the core will almost certainly double the TDP.


A 4608 cores Vega will consume 300W of TDP. So AMD how much higher do you want to go? A nuclear furnace?
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It's a Titan. Even if Nvidia weren't selling it directly, the add-in board partners would be prevented from selling it with a non-reference cooler anyway. That's the way it's been with every Titan there's been. It comes with Nvidia's blower cooler or it doesn't come at all.

Forget non-reference cooler, the bigger problem is no non-reference board. Dunno about you but I really do not like how nVidia does the "just good enough" bit for their VRMs. Sure we're long past the days of Fermi where VRMs popped left right and center, but a halo product like Titan is supposed to be crafted from the best components possible, not "we're gonna cut every corner possible to squeeze the most margins out of it".

Really, nVidia could learn a thing or two from AMD when it comes to building reference boards.
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Forget non-reference cooler, the bigger problem is no non-reference board. Dunno about you but I really do not like how nVidia does the "just good enough" bit for their VRMs. Sure we're long past the days of Fermi where VRMs popped left right and center, but a halo product like Titan is supposed to be crafted from the best components possible, not "we're gonna cut every corner possible to squeeze the most margins out of it".

Really, nVidia could learn a thing or two from AMD when it comes to building reference boards.

Until AMD rival Nvidia in the high end, Nvidia is free to do as they please. Price tags, vrm's, basic cooling etc.
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Ummm, AMD gave nVidia plenty of competition during the Fermi era, and Fermi's still had absolute dog turd VRMs.
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We haven't seen the GP100 yet. I think they're holding that back until next year. Use it as the basis for another tier of cards before they get to Volta in 2018.

GP100 has too much double precision hardware weighing it down. It's >600mm and not that much faster in FP32 compared to GP104.

GP102 is almost certainly a bigger GP104 with bare minimum FP64. Considering how GP106, GP104, and GP102 are laid out, I wouldn't be surprised to see a GP112 Titan next year with 8 GPCs + HBM coming in at ~600mm.
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Why would there be a GP112? If they really wanted to release an HBM2 based GeForce card they could just re-purpose the existing GP100 parts after 16nm FF matures and 610mm² dies have yields above single digits (I'm just pulling this number out of my ass).

Also given that HBM2 and GDDR5X would require radically different memory controllers, I'm starting to doubt there will even be an HBM2 GeForce card for Pascal. Maybe late 2017 when the node matures and HBM2 costs go down, but certainly not the near future.
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