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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

After reading through this thread.. There's a very common pattern.

Most of the complainers are:
1) 1080 owners that likely wished they waited, so they troll the thread and lie to themselves about wanting the card.
2) People who can't afford the card at all, so they decided to troll the thread about how the product isn't worth the money.

Yes you can argue that this card is poor price:performance, but so is the 1080. No one buying high end cards cares about that, especially something in the Titan lineup. The previous titans were very successful, and this one will be too.

Did you not get bored of gaming? What are you playing to play with this new Titan X that would spout a new life for you? I do not think money is a problem for a lot of member here. We just like to get good deals. There are people that buy the best for their need and those that get the joy of getting the same thing down the line for less money. I calculate the price of the card based on the time it comes out and the games I must play. Titan XP has come out faster then any Titan ever and the price tag reflects that. Titan OG and Titan X would have cost more if they came 4-6 moths from their original date.
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I wonder what the most commonly used name for the new Titan X is going to be.

Maxwell bois get rekt a new sheriff is in town Titan


Lol, I like this one the best.

Nvidia named it Nvidia Titan X so NTX maybe?
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

9 days...

I'm brimming with excitement. M

Jen-Hsun Huang is brimming with excitement.
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I would go into why both of you are wrong but the post will probably also get deleted by a mod like my last reply to you...

Hey! I tried replying to that post, but it said post unavailable. frown.gif Why are we stopping rational discussion, mods? frown.gif

You honestly don't understand that a monopoly increases prices, relative to a competitive market? What economics did you study? You realize...the very link you posted states that a monopoly increases prices. I literally posted the next slide, which clearly showed that a monopoly allows a business to charge higher prices.
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I would go into why both of you are wrong but the post will probably also get deleted by a mod like my last reply to you...

Hey! I tried replying to that post, but it said post unavailable. frown.gif Why are we stopping rational discussion, mods? frown.gif

You honestly don't understand that a monopoly increases prices, relative to a competitive market? What economics did you study? You realize...the very link you posted states that a monopoly increases prices. I literally posted the next slide, which clearly showed that a monopoly allows a business to charge higher prices.
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Please enlighten us as to why they should price the 1080, which is considerably faster than the GTX 980Ti, for less than the GTX 980Ti was selling for at the 1080 launch? Perhaps your inability to understand simple business economics is why you constantly complain about any card that costs more than $200.

Save up some money, stop complaining.

I will try to keep this short.

The wise thing would of been for people not to have paid $700 for a midrange GPU like the 1080. Card should of been $500 max. The 980 should have been $450. Entirely too many people buying based on performance and not even considering where in the product stack this comes in at.

Yea Yea I know that it is the flagship at "that point in time" and it is "15% faster then the 980ti so it should cost 15% more!"

Nvidia is not stupid, but in a way the customers are setting the prices or at least not helping themselves. The 1080 is still sold out most of the time. We had people selling 980ti's for $350-$450 on Ebay and Craigslist to pay $675-$700 for a 15-20% improvement on the 1080. Nvidia sees this and realizes that they can price where they want. Does not help with no competition from AMD in this segment. I kept my 980ti hybrid because it clocks to 1550 and there was no way I was going to pay almost $700 for a midsize chip card. I understand that performance should not be the only criteria for the pricing of the GPU.

Now the problem is if Vega does not hit a homerun I worry that the 1080ti will be priced at $850-$900. In fact this new card might be the actual TI in itself. ( mad.gif pricing wise).Hopefully Vega does well and it forces the 1080 to drop to $500-525 which is where it should be now. Then the 1080ti can be priced at $725-$750 but I doubt it..

I myself will not pay more than $750 for a GPU because I look at history of the GPU and then add for inflation etc. Look at the prices of the big boy GPU prices - 8800gtx- not including the Ultra's stupid price for 5-7 % performance increase to today. $650 or less to $650 to $700 for a 980ti Then look at the initial prices of the midsize chips. $250 for a 8800gt and now we are scaling all the way to $700 for a 1080.

You see that the high end (excluding TItan) has held prices within 20% for the last 10 years. Hell even the 7800GTX was $649 way back when. I personally am ok with a 20% increase over 10 years for inflation, wages etc. I am NOT ok with the huge increase in the midrange prices.

Just go back in time to when the 8800gt came out in 2007. It was $250 at launch. The card it replaced; the 7950gt was released the year before at $299-$349. I had both cards. The 8800gt almost DOUBLED the 7950gt in performance but was less money. The 8800gt has to be one of the most sold cards of all time along with the 9700pro, ti4200 and the 970gtx.

I know I jumped around a lot here but I just wanted to show that since the 680gtx, Nvidia is killing us in the pricing of the midrange size chip. We should not be paying 300% more for these chips then 7-8 years ago. I am ok with a 20% big chip TI pricing but not over $750-$800.

If pricing was based just on performance like some of you think we would be paying $3000 for a gpu right now. Think about it starting from the ti 4200 days. And go thru each generation and take benchmarks and see what the performance increase was for the midrange. . Now take that % and do the same for the prices. We would be at $3000 or so for a gpu by now.

If we continue buying at these prices we will be paying huge prices all the time like we are now. We need AMD to come out with a winner.
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Please enlighten us as to why they should price the 1080, which is considerably faster than the GTX 980Ti, for less than the GTX 980Ti was selling for at the 1080 launch? Perhaps your inability to understand simple business economics is why you constantly complain about any card that costs more than $200.

Save up some money, stop complaining.

I will try to keep this short.

The wise thing would of been for people not to have paid $700 for a midrange GPU like the 1080. Card should of been $500 max. The 980 should have been $450. Entirely too many people buying based on performance and not even considering where in the product stack this comes in at.

Yea Yea I know that it is the flagship at "that point in time" and it is "15% faster then the 980ti so it should cost 15% more!"

Nvidia is not stupid, but in a way the customers are setting the prices or at least not helping themselves. The 1080 is still sold out most of the time. We had people selling 980ti's for $350-$450 on Ebay and Craigslist to pay $675-$700 for a 15-20% improvement on the 1080. Nvidia sees this and realizes that they can price where they want. Does not help with no competition from AMD in this segment. I kept my 980ti hybrid because it clocks to 1550 and there was no way I was going to pay almost $700 for a midsize chip card. I understand that performance should not be the only criteria for the pricing of the GPU.

Now the problem is if Vega does not hit a homerun I worry that the 1080ti will be priced at $850-$900. In fact this new card might be the actual TI in itself. ( mad.gif pricing wise).Hopefully Vega does well and it forces the 1080 to drop to $500-525 which is where it should be now. Then the 1080ti can be priced at $725-$750 but I doubt it..

I myself will not pay more than $750 for a GPU because I look at history of the GPU and then add for inflation etc. Look at the prices of the big boy GPU prices - 8800gtx- not including the Ultra's stupid price for 5-7 % performance increase to today. $650 or less to $650 to $700 for a 980ti Then look at the initial prices of the midsize chips. $250 for a 8800gt and now we are scaling all the way to $700 for a 1080.

You see that the high end (excluding TItan) has held prices within 20% for the last 10 years. Hell even the 7800GTX was $649 way back when. I personally am ok with a 20% increase over 10 years for inflation, wages etc. I am NOT ok with the huge increase in the midrange prices.

Just go back in time to when the 8800gt came out in 2007. It was $250 at launch. The card it replaced; the 7950gt was released the year before at $299-$349. I had both cards. The 8800gt almost DOUBLED the 7950gt in performance but was less money. The 8800gt has to be one of the most sold cards of all time along with the 9700pro, ti4200 and the 970gtx.

I know I jumped around a lot here but I just wanted to show that since the 680gtx, Nvidia is killing us in the pricing of the midrange size chip. We should not be paying 300% more for these chips then 7-8 years ago. I am ok with a 20% big chip TI pricing but not over $750-$800.

If pricing was based just on performance like some of you think we would be paying $3000 for a gpu right now. Think about it starting from the ti 4200 days. And go thru each generation and take benchmarks and see what the performance increase was for the midrange. . Now take that % and do the same for the prices. We would be at $3000 or so for a gpu by now.

If we continue buying at these prices we will be paying huge prices all the time like we are now. We need AMD to come out with a winner.
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OCN used to be about buying modest hardware and eeking out the max performance per dollar, not about paying crazy prices for instant max performance.

The term enthusiast does not equal paying max dollar for instant max performance. Where is the thrill in that?

People keep confusing "Enthusiast" with max amount of dollars for hardware, which is wrong.

True. I think that's not exactly an enthusiast from when I learned the definition. It's a surprising change.
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True. I think that's not exactly an enthusiast from when I learned the definition. It's a surprising change.

OCN used to be about putting Truck Turbos on a STI. Most people think it's about buying a Lambo and Turbo charging that.
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