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Little updated info from Anandtech.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10510/nvidia-announces-nvidia-titan-x-video-card-1200-available-august-2nd
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Update 07/25: NVIDIA has given us a few answers to the question above. We have confirmation that the FP64 and FP16 rates are identical to GP104, which is to say very slow, and primarily there for compatibility/debug purposes. With the exception of INT8 support, this is a bigger GP104 throughout.

Meanwhile we have a die size for GP102: 471mm2, which is 139mm2 smaller than GP100. Given that both (presumably) have the same number of FP32 cores, the die space savings and implications are significant. This is as best of an example as we're ever going to get on the die space cost of the HPC features limited to GP100: NVLInk, fast FP64/FP16 support, larger register files, etc. By splitting HPC and graphics/inference into two GPUs, NVIDIA can produce GP102 at what should be a significantly lower price (and higher yield), something they couldn't do until the market for compute products based on GP100 was self-sustaining.

Finally, NVIDIA has clarified the branding a bit. Despite GeForce.com labeling it "the world’s ultimate graphics card," NVIDIA this morning has stated that the primary market is FP32 and INT8 compute, not gaming. Though gaming is certainly possible - and I fully expect they'll be happy to sell you $1200 gaming cards - the tables have essentially been flipped from the past Titan cards, where they were treated as gaming first and compute second. This of course opens the door to a proper GeForce branded GP102 card later on, possibly with neutered INT8 support to enforce the market segmentation.
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This time though I am not believe a Volta 2017 launch. There is too much GP100/102 to be release in the next 18 months. Even Maxwell with 2 GM200 variant lasted 21 months.

Btw the EVGA hybrid, will it really work on Titan XP? Seem like fit for 980 Ti.

I think you might've mixed up GM200 with GM204. Titan X was launched in March 2015 and 980 Ti May 2015. So that puts GM200 at 17 months for the Titan X, and 15 months for the 980 Ti.
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Same things going to happen with this Titan XP, Nvidia are too unpredictable to warrant risking $1200 a card for it to be stomped a few months later. I seriously doubt i'll be jumping on it, unless I know for 100% certainty I can get a year out of it before being superseded.

I can completely relate to this. The OG Titan had an incredibly long lifespan, and it wasn't until Titan X got released that it decisively took a backseat (a heavily OC'd Titan gets close to stock 980). Doubt we'll ever get anything like that again if nVidia could help it.
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Im thinking about something, im ok buying this too much expensixe titanx, but is it possible nvidia release something stronger like a titan x black hbm2 within the next 8-10 months ???
I WONT BE HAPPY ! I want at least near a full year to be the best nvidia card for gaming available ? What do you think ?
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Originally Posted by renejr902 View Post

Im thinking about something, im ok buying this too much expensixe titanx, but is it possible nvidia release something stronger like a titan x black hbm2 within the next 8-10 months ???
I WONT BE HAPPY ! I want at least near a full year to be the best nvidia card for gaming available ? What do you think ?

LOL... a full year? I wouldn't bet $1200 on it. Only buy a Titan if you are okay with the possibility that it won't be top dog for very long.
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Originally Posted by renejr902 View Post

Im thinking about something, im ok buying this too much expensixe titanx, but is it possible nvidia release something stronger like a titan x black hbm2 within the next 8-10 months ???
I WONT BE HAPPY ! I want at least near a full year to be the best nvidia card for gaming available ? What do you think ?

Nobody knows, but Titans are never a good buy if you won't be happy not getting a full year out of it.
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It's quite sad that there is no other close option for the consumer at this performance range. There is no AMD card that touch a 1080, yet alone a titan XP... I dont see vega even beating a 1080 with only 4k SP on the chip with the 480's 2.3k SP not matching a 1280 Core 1060..
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People can voice their opinion all they want. It's no longer called whining when a significant portion of the gaming community can no longer purchase a high end card like they used to.

Titan is nothing special. It's not prosumer, it's not ultra high end, it's not a boutique card, it's not a halo card, nor is it like a Ferrari or a Yacht. It's the same old plastic crap pasted together and for some god damn reason they've fooled you guys into thinking it's worth 4x times as much as it used to cost ($329 GTX 570).

It's sickening how far people have fallen for this marketing. It's literally just a name.

AMD's new offer right now is a 200$ gpu that is at least half as powerful.... Don't blame the consumer for buying what's best, blame the competition for offering nothing of value these said consumer. Nvidia released the whole lineup before we even hear about the "high end" card they will offer and I'm pretty sure vega won't compete with the titan XP.
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Originally Posted by renejr902 View Post

Im thinking about something, im ok buying this too much expensixe titanx, but is it possible nvidia release something stronger like a titan x black hbm2 within the next 8-10 months ???
I WONT BE HAPPY ! I want at least near a full year to be the best nvidia card for gaming available ? What do you think ?

There is no strong answer to this question. You can buy what is available now, but unfortunately there is really no such thing as "future proof", especially for the high end. Future proofing requires the sacrifice of giving up the top end percent of performance to extend the value of the purchase you have. By buying a Titan XP, you are forfeiting that performance outright.

Sadly, your options are:

1. Buy one now and buy another one later at a lower cost, for marginal SLI performance increases
2. Wait for Vega and lower prices market-wide
3. Buy one now, sell it when Volta or the next Pascal card releases.

There is no sense of value, or performance/$ buying a video card with early adopters fees.
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Originally Posted by renejr902 View Post

Im thinking about something, im ok buying this too much expensixe titanx, but is it possible nvidia release something stronger like a titan x black hbm2 within the next 8-10 months ???
I WONT BE HAPPY ! I want at least near a full year to be the best nvidia card for gaming available ? What do you think ?

LOL... a full year? I wouldn't bet $1200 on it. Only buy a Titan if you are okay with the possibility that it won't be top dog for very long.

I agree, if there is anything to this Volta rumor this Titan will probably be dethroned in 6-9 months.
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post #1509 of 3587
I'm gonna be blunt and say if you're going to worry about not getting enough mileage out of your Titan before it expires, it's probably not for you.
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Oh man ! That is not a gaming card ?!#/@+ what they want us to think about that ?????

471mm2 , its not a full die at all????? Does this means a Pascal or Volta Geforce Titan with (25% more die space)588mm2 with 4480 cores or ( 33% more die space) 628mm2 with 4800 cores is coming in a FEW MONTHS !!!!

AAAhhh Does this means that ???? Thanks for your opinion guys wink.gif im confuse right now, is it a good idea to buy that titan x not gaming edition ????
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