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Yeah, but the 1060 doesn't have anywhere near the margins the "enthusiast" market does. I meant higher volume compared to the Titans.
I never said they'd be selling the 1080Ti for $700.. That ship has sailed, it's not far fetched to think they'll release a cut-down GP102 for around $850 though.

Also no, not wishful thinking.. I wouldn't buy any of Nvidia's rip-off edition cards, even the 1080 is pushing the limits of what I'd pay, and that would only be for a true top-tier GPU like the 980Ti.

If the current Titan is a cut version of a Quadro workstation card then I doubt we'll see a cut of the Titan any time soon without a nudge from AMD. If you make a high volume part from a very high margins chip like GP102, you'll need to cannibalize fully working GP102s to fill that need. Why do that if you can sell Quadros for a pretty penny and recycle the failed chips as pricey Titans?

If AMD went bankrupt tomorrow we may only see xx80s at the high end and a titan as the ultimate with the current price scheme.
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That may well be what GP102 is.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10510/nvidia-announces-nvidia-titan-x-video-card-1200-available-august-2nd
Not at GP102's die-size.

Well at GP102 stand between 100 and 104 so it's not a true high end card. Even at 102 size they can get close to 5K Cuda cores.
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I dont know why most people have not mention the main reason to own a Titan : e-peen
What's e-peen? I don't care what anyone thinks and I never try and show off new and expensive hardware. That's just dumb... 😉
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What is a VIVE?
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If you truly believe this then your MBA has failed you.

Really.....I'm rich...self made....but thanks for playin lol
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I don't see any reason for Nvidia to do different strategy than with 900 series. TITAN X is for those richest impatient enthusiats who will buy it for its riddiculous price. While Nvidia knows that there are Enthusiast out there (like me) who are willing to spend money but not so much but expect power. This is where Ti comes out. Apart from extreme circumstances (graphic, rendering I guess and 4K) Ti performes the same as TITAN in games, but it has lower price and no e-peen factor "Biggest, CAPSLOCK, strongest, Black edition" etc.

I tworked wonder for them with 700 series, it worked wonder with 900 series, I don't see reason for 1000 series to be different.

TITAN X owners will be annoyed? Gimme a break Like Nivida cares if each year those "annoyed" guys spends more and more on TITAN despite being annoyed by 100% sure launch of Ti card after that.

And after we will see Ti with full dice and lower price, guess what next? TITAN X BLACK of course smile.gif. Same story guys.

Nvidia knows what its doing to get money, sadly. Belive me.
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If the current Titan is a cut version of a Quadro workstation card then I doubt we'll see a cut of the Titan any time soon without a nudge from AMD. If you make a high volume part from a very high margins chip like GP102, you'll need to cannibalize fully working GP102s to fill that need. Why do that if you can sell Quadros for a pretty penny and recycle the failed chips as pricey Titans?

If AMD went bankrupt tomorrow we may only see xx80s at the high end and a titan as the ultimate with the current price scheme.

Where's the info that makes you think Titan XP is a cut Quadro? Even if it is, Nvidia could just release even further cut GP102's as 1080Ti's. The price hiking is at an all time high, so why not squeeze every drop out of consumers they can..

I've had this conversation more than once. redface.gif

Titan thread - "Titan will be king for a couple years at least"

Titan X thread - "They'll never release a 980Ti so close to the Titan X".

1080 thread - " Pascal Titan is 2017 at the earliest".

Nvidia is good at making money, and their consumers are more than willing to hand it over. We'll see soon enough i guess. Most of the people who buy Titans aren't the types to weep when a new card drops, they just buy whatever is the best and move on. But some of them think they're buying an "investment', or get upset every time someone calls them a rip-off, they have a need to tell the world how successful they are, and will never accept Nvidia may just cast them aside for more profits. Those are the ones who loose sleep. tongue.gif

As i said, lucky for the rest of us that most Titan owners are like "yeah, they're a rip-off, but i can afford it and i want the best". Imagine we had a bunch of whiners who spend their time calling others whiners for not admitting Titan's are investments and can be used for "professional work", and daring to voice their own opinion on the price of them.

The last parts aren't directed at you, just an upset Titan owner who enjoys PM's. lachen.gif
Edited by GorillaSceptre - 7/25/16 at 1:28pm
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I never said they'd be selling the 1080Ti for $700.. That ship has sailed, it's not far fetched to think they'll release a GP102 1080Ti for around $850 though. They left a $5-600 gap between the 1080 and Titan XP, you think that was by accident?

Also no, not wishful thinking.. I wouldn't buy any of Nvidia's rip-off edition cards, even the 1080 is pushing the limits of what I'd pay, and that would only be for a true top-tier GPU like the 980Ti.

No it's not by accident, but simply to avoid cannibalizing 1080 sales. By pricing Titan X at basically 2x 1080, they've essentially enforced complete separation of the two target markets.
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Really.....I'm rich...self made....but thanks for playin lol

What does you being rich have anything to do with what I said? Here let me refresh your memory:
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Well lets face it, a high end GPU is a luxury item. Its a luxury item in a market dominated by one player, what did you think was gonna happen? Nvidia could charge two grand for these and I am positive they would all sell out....three thousand not so much, but I think two thousand is the threshold that they could get away with. So you have to decide, is Nvidia Evil and milking us? Or do they love us and willing to sacrifice a bit of raw profit to try and keep the luxury good attainable to the common man?

If you truly believe this then your MBA has failed you.

Then again your post was a complete non-sequitur so I'll just assume you quoted the wrong people for now.
Edited by magnek - 7/25/16 at 1:29pm
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No it's not by accident, but simply to avoid cannibalizing 1080 sales. By pricing Titan X at basically 2x 1080, they've essentially enforced complete separation of the two target markets.
What does you being rich have anything to do with what I said?

Yup, could definitely be as simple as that. thumb.gif

I'm just speculating. If there is a 1080Ti at least it will be a bit more gentle on the wallet.. redface.gif
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If they really wanted to maximize profits, NOT releasing a 1080 Ti ever would be the smart thing to do. This way if 980 Ti and Titan X owners feel the 1080 isn't enough of an upgrade, then they can step right up to the $1200 card.
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First Titan with GP102, then Quadro GP102.

Is it too much to ask that you just release the god damn Geforce GP102 at the same time you wankers?!
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