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I'm sitting tight until there's something that's at least 50% faster than a stock 1080 aka 980 Ti @ 1500/8000 AND has HBM2.

So yeah, gonna be waiting till Q4 2017 at least if not longer.
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Originally Posted by magnek View Post

I'm sitting tight until there's something that's at least 50% faster than a stock 1080 aka 980 Ti @ 1500/8000 AND has HBM2.

So yeah, gonna be waiting till Q4 2017 at least if not longer.

HBM snob. wink.gif
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If they really wanted to maximize profits, NOT releasing a 1080 Ti ever would be the smart thing to do. This way if 980 Ti and Titan X owners feel the 1080 isn't enough of an upgrade, then they can step right up to the $1200 card.
I disagree. Maxwell owners wanting better performance would buy the 1080. But some wouldn't be satisfied. So, they'd have to shell it out for the Titan XP. Some wouldn't, of course, as it would be out of their budget. Then, the 1080ti is released, for a slightly lower price, edging over the remaining customers for whom the Titan XP was a bit of an overreach.

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What's probably the top line from a marketing standpoint is "how much will upper-middle class enthusiasts pay?"

The ultra rich don't care, 1,000 or 5,000 those number don't mean a thing.

From what it seems like, Intel has found that $1,750 prices out the upper middle class enthusiasts, so Nvidia is setting the bar just a hair lower at $1,200.


As someone who considers themselves to be an upper-middle class enthusiast, I waiver at the 1,200 dollar figure. If I had a need for it, I.E. a monitor that could put out the benefits of such a powerful card, I would probably pull the trigger, but there isn't really anything that would allow such a card to shine compared to the previous generation.

Now if you are doing a new build and going 4k or 3440 x 1440 100hz for the first time, getting this GPU would be the smart choice in my opinion as it's the only single GPU solution that can steadily cap those numbers and leaves room for a future upgrade to SLI if/when upgrade their monitor.

Unfortunately, those of us who represent a large portion of the new buys, the enthusiasts who upgrade constantly, who already have 4k monitors and the GPU power to push it, be that CF Fury X, SLI 980ti/Titan-X, I just don't see any reason to spend that money with nothing to show for it, just like us Haswell-E owners opting out of buying a new Broadwell-E CPU.

TLDR: Folks with powerful rigs and set-ups will probably skip out on this, while it makes perfect sense for those who want to build a powerful rig now.
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Originally Posted by magnek View Post

I'm sitting tight until there's something that's at least 50% faster than a stock 1080 aka 980 Ti @ 1500/8000 AND has HBM2.

So yeah, gonna be waiting till Q4 2017 at least if not longer.

ohno-smiley.gif

Better not be that long. mad.gif I'm sick of 1080p..

That's the most annoying part of this Titan, people can say what they want about the Fury X (and there's not much to say next to a 980Ti redface.gif ), but at least it had HBM to redeem it. You sort of expect the cutting edge on flagships, particularly one that costs $1200..

They want to charge obscene amounts of money? fine.. But you'd think they'd make it something special, a unique cooler, etc. Heck, maybe a damn backplate.. Instead it's nothing but an empty name built with "just good enough" power delivery and the same cooler as their $400 card. rolleyes.gif
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If they really wanted to maximize profits, NOT releasing a 1080 Ti ever would be the smart thing to do. This way if 980 Ti and Titan X owners feel the 1080 isn't enough of an upgrade, then they can step right up to the $1200 card.

Excuse me, what qualifications do you have to make such a bold comment? Because from where I am sitting, it looks patently incorrect.

They will release a Titan XP for $1,200 and sell out....then several months down the line they will release the 1080TI for $1,000 and sell out.....then they may do a run of Titan Blacks for $1,500 and sell out. This is pretty much how Nivida has operated for quite some time.
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This w/ 4-Way SLI and 4K Surround using the Dell OLED 120Hz monitors would be ... epic.
     
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If anything, you've changed my mind about buying the Titan XP. I now want to buy two!!! thumb.gif

Funny enough, 2 would be the only way I will go if I were to get some TITAN action this round.
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HBM snob. wink.gif

Haters gon gate. whistle.gif
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I disagree. Maxwell owners wanting better performance would buy the 1080. But some wouldn't be satisfied. So, they'd have to shell it out for the Titan XP. Some wouldn't, of course, as it would be out of their budget. Then, the 1080ti is released, for a slightly lower price, edging over the remaining customers for whom the Titan XP was a bit of an overreach.

Calculations made, EVERYONE upgraded. Nvidia runs this mother.

This was my reasoning:
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Well, what would 980 Ti and Titan X owners if they wanted an upgrade and the only two choices were:

1080 @ $609-$700
Titan X @ $1200?

The ones that don't care they're only getting a 20% upgrade bought the 1080 already. The ones that want more performance will either have to buy the Titan X or keep waiting. And I promise you the patient ones are in the minority.

Also at least at the high end, every time a Ti was released it was in response to AMD. 780 Ti was intended to claw back the performance crown from 290X, and 980 Ti was basically to kill Fury X sales. If Vega doesn't exceed 1080 by at least 10-15%, I honestly don't have high hopes for a 1080 Ti.

Basically my point was in the absence of a 1080 Ti, the only alternative to not paying $1200 is to wait. And sooner or later people (or at least those in the ultra high end segment) will cave.

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ohno-smiley.gif

Better not be that long. mad.gif I'm sick of 1080p..

That's the most annoying part of this Titan, people can say what they want about the Fury X (and there's not much to say next to a 980Ti redface.gif ), but at least it had HBM to redeem it. You sort of expect the cutting edge on flagships, particularly one that costs $1200..

They want to charge obscene amounts of money? fine.. But you'd think they'd make it something special, a unique cooler, etc. Heck, maybe a damn backplate.. Instead it's nothing but an empty name built with "just good enough" power delivery and the same cooler as their $400 card. rolleyes.gif

HBM2? Yeah I don't see that coming anytime before Volta Titan, hence Q42017 or later.

Well the OG Titan at least had the same FP64 (DP) capability as the Tesla cards, so there's that (lol can't believe I'm defending the OG Titan doh.gif). Titan X was just a pimped up 980 Ti but at least had more vram. This Titan XP is a mockery of the Titan moniker.
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Excuse me, what qualifications do you have to make such a bold comment? Because from where I am sitting, it looks patently incorrect.

They will release a Titan XP for $1,200 and sell out....then several months down the line they will release the 1080TI for $1,000 and sell out.....then they may do a run of Titan Blacks for $1,500 and sell out. This is pretty much how Nivida has operated for quite some time.

Well, change that 1080 Ti for $1000 in your post to Titan XP for $1200 and what do you get?
Edited by magnek - 7/25/16 at 3:01pm
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This w/ 4-Way SLI and 4K Surround using the Dell OLED 120Hz monitors would be ... epic.


Haha Baasha and his over the top builds.....would like to see that one for sure! I am hoping for a DP 1.3 adapter.....or a special edition Titan XP that has a USBC out connection, that way we can get full 120hz support.....but as is 4K 30" OLED @ 60hz is till worth the $5,000 cost of entry for me! The 120hz potential is just the icing on top thumb.gif
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