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Well then you are living in denial. I can't recall anything being at the $800 ish price point really. They like to go $500-$700 for upper end mainstream like the 1080 and $999+ for the really high performers. If you include x2 cards you could say they have been at the $1,000+ price point for quite some time for the highest end cards and AMD was playin that expensive game too...I recall paying an arm and a leg for the AMD 6990!

Living in denial?

OG Titan: $999
GTX 780: $649

Titan X: $999
980 Ti: $649

The cut down part has historically been $350 less (granted it's only two data points). $1200 - $350 = $850. I didn't pull that number out of my ass you know.
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Btw don't know if anybody noticed, but Quadro P6000 was just announced, and surprise surprise, it's the full GP102 chip with 3840 cores.

So this Titan XP is already a salvage part that didn't make the Quadro cut. rolleyes.gif
Mass production for nVidia's Tesla P100 GPU. thumb.giftongue.gif

AMD had a roadmap where they said Vega would have HBM2, so there's that. HBM2 for nVidia is gonna be Volta Titan I expect. As for DX12 and Maxwell, well that's a foregone conclusion. lachen.gif
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that the GP102 with 3840 cores wasn't a rumor? Pretty obvious Nvidia will eventually release a Titan XP Black. Well, obvious in my mind at least.
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Living in denial?

OG Titan: $999
GTX 780: $649

Titan X: $999
980 Ti: $649

The cut down part has historically been $350 less (granted it's only two data points). $1200 - $350 = $850. I didn't pull that number out of my ass you know.

Its because there are more consumers in the industry, not necessary because there are more people with disposable income, because there are not. The world economy is pretty weak right now, but there are more consumers and enough demand for them to sell @1200. Do you disagree with that? Do you deny that these will sell out at at that price point?

I keep using the full auto machine gun market as an example because it too has gone more mainstream.
Ten years ago you could have purchased a transferable Colt M16 for around $10,000 - $12,000. Now they are $25,000 - $40,000.
Ten years ago you could have purchased a Mac11 for $1,500. Now they are $7,500 - $10,000

Unlike GPUS, these are the same exact items...these transferable full auto machine guns. So what happened to drive up the price? Supply and demand, ownership of F/A used to be considered taboo.....but then it went mainstream and demand cause prices to climb......and there is no end in sight. I predict in ten years Colt M16s will be worth $100,000
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Given what we've seen from the GCN iterations so far, even 10% would be a very optimistic estimate, and 20% is just unrealistic.

As far as clocks go, they might get higher if they switch to TSMC's process, but if they use GF's 14nm LPP for Vega, then once again I don't think Vega will clock very high, if Polaris is any indication.

Overall, my projection for Vega is still around 1080 level, until I see further evidence otherwise.

I thought everyone was talking about last year how GF 14nm is actually superior to TSMC 16nm in that it has faster switching speeds and a bit less leakage? So GF node should clock better than TSMC. Id put the lack of clocking down to the architecture itself, not the node it is on. I really think the GPUs would clock even worse if AMD went over to TSMC.
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Its because there are more consumers in the industry, not necessary because there are more people with disposable income, because there are not. The world economy is pretty weak right now, but there are more consumers and enough demand for them to sell @1200. Do you disagree with that? Do you deny that these will sell out at at that price point?

I keep using the full auto machine gun market as an example because it too has gone more mainstream.
Ten years ago you could have purchased a transferable Colt M16 for around $10,000 - $12,000. Now they are $25,000 - $40,000.
Ten years ago you could have purchased a Mac11 for $1,500. Now they are $7,500 - $10,000

Unlike GPUS, these are the same exact items...these transferable full auto machine guns. So what happened to drive up the price? Supply and demand, ownership of F/A used to be considered taboo.....but then it went mainstream and demand cause prices to climb......and there is no end in sight. I predict in ten years Colt M16s will be worth $100,000

wth.gif

Are you sure you're not quoting the wrong person? I never disputed any of that. Hell if anything the part in bold just reinforces what I said about a cheaper 1080 Ti not being unnecessary, especially if AMD doesn't come up with anything competitive.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that the GP102 with 3840 cores wasn't a rumor? Pretty obvious Nvidia will eventually release a Titan XP Black. Well, obvious in my mind at least.

Was expected but not confirmed till now. Makes the Titan X a harder sell knowing it's not the full chip imo. Even though the perf difference would be small it's annoying
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It'll also depend heavily on where you live. Here in Taxifornia (well the Bay Area to be more precise), you pretty much have to be in at least the 80th percentile of your income group if you want to have anything resembling moderate comfort.

I mean, you know something's completely whack when a freaking garage goes for $1,000/mo. kookoo.gif
Doesn't mean much if it's a monthly paycheck. biggrin.gif I kid I kid.

But yeah, wouldn't be surprised if many (most?) on here are fairly well-off bourgeois types.
Lol, you must have never been through Boston, in the Back bay/South End section alone, a parking spot costs as much as a condo. .....I didn't dare own a car while living there... smile.gif
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Jayz posted a video and mentioned that the 1080 Ti will come out eventually. Could be guessing or he knows something we don't. 13:40 mark.
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he's guessing like anyone else
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he's guessing like anyone else
Not everyone gets free cards from Nvidia though.
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