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Originally Posted by Asmodian View Post

I am sure they would still make money selling a 610mm² GP102+ for $1200, but even Pascal would go way over 250W with 5760 cores at 1700+ MHz.devil.gif

I would really want one anyway! drool.gif

It could have a TDP of 500W and I wouldn't bat an eyelash. My body wallet loop is ready. devil.gif
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5760 would need 9 GPC which would be weird. 5120 cores is the max from a die size standpoint, IMO. Even 5120 cores would smash into the TDP limit pretty hard and require an AIO cooler for significant gains against GP102.

The 2nd part makes me think we just wont see 5120 cores happen until Volta. They need another efficiency boost first.

Yeah, they almost never make GPUs that require custom loops to properly cool. sad-smiley-002.gif
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Console Air cooling peasants. mad.gif

I kid I kid
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*with the HBM memory controller swapped for a GDDR5X controller. tongue.gif

How does the GTX 1080 scale with memory overclocks?
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Memory OC barely does anything apparently according to Anandtech:



SAUCE
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*with the HBM memory controller swapped for a GDDR5X controller. tongue.gif

How does the GTX 1080 scale with memory overclocks?

I suppose swapping HBM for GDDR5X could be thought of as part of stripping down for gaming? I don't think this Titan will be bottlenecked in games by its 480 GB/s.
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If they release a 5120 cores and hbm2 titan in the next 6-12 months , i will regret to have bought this 3584 cores titan x for 1200$. I want and need this titan x but its not worth his money.

the next titan if it has 5120 cores and hbm2 , i guess the price will be at least 1500$? Right ? 2000$+?
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Don't hold your breath for a 5120 core Titan with HBM2, that would be giving away way too much performance way too early, and it'd be hard to get these buyers to upgrade again. And of course as mentioned, probably not possible to fit within 250W TDP without severely reducing clockspeeds. We were all talking in theoreticals, this 5120 Titan will not be a thing.
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I should've been more clear.

GP102 = 471 mm²
GP100 = 610 mm²

They lopped off the FP64 units but didn't add back anything. I'm talking about a theoretical 610mm² pure gaming GPU with 5760 cores. That would be worthy of the Titan name.
BUMP THAT! Keep the FP64 units and there's our theoretical Pacal Titan Black. A real Titan successor and not just this money grab of the gamers they've started.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Well we have been told so far that they are not making a GP100 GeForce card at all so we get GP102 instead. Of course who really believes that?

Then again, they are saying this new Titan will not be a GeForce card but its certainly not a Quadro so what the hell is it exactly? With gimped DP performance its not a professional level card so its absolutely a gaming card in my opinion. Claims by Nvidia to the contrary are just marketing noise it would seem...
To be fair the Quadros they just released use this chip and their stated FP64 performance is only 1/32,just as the maxwell Quadros. If that doesn't show what kind of reshuffling Nvidia are going for IDK. Even the 'light-core' professionals that used to rely on the quadros DP are forced into thr more expensive Tessla territory.
Edited by JakdMan - 7/26/16 at 1:03am
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Memory OC barely does anything apparently according to Anandtech:



SAUCE

Not that much point in HBM then. Consumer Pascal isn't benefiting from the lower latency or higher bandwidth from overclocking, and the FLOPS to bandwidth ratio isn't going to change with GP102.

Maybe HBM will free up enough power to make a 300W 5120 core Titan XXX. One X for each 1.2K USD wink.gif
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