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So you suggest I compare against x80 ti as soon as it exists and titans as soon as they appear?

I just finished series 4 and 5, but I dont know how to include the Titan and Titan black, is the black just a faster clocked titan1?

Titan Black is the full chip. Titan was partially cut down.
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Basically the x60/x70/x80 cards we have now are not the true x60/x70/x80 cards of years ago. For instance today's Titan would have been the x80 of the 5 series. Nvidia added two sku's at the bottom of the stack and moved everything up two tiers. (570 = 1080Ti , GTX 580 = Titan XP)

The Titan X Pascal skew is now equivalent to a GTX 570. It's a cut-down flagship like the 570 was.
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Name shifting? Do you mean like 480 is as fast as 570 for example?

My sheet is in fact ordered by name models, but what will end driving the charts will be the price/performance so IMO it will not matter much hmmm let me meditate

You will not have accurate reading across the generations if you set the 100% as the X80 of each series. X80 used to be the top of the line. It is no longer the case. X80 is now the mid-grade chips. If you want a fair assessment of relative performance per generation you can either compare it to the flagship of said generation or the flagship of the previous generation.

Also, the 6 and 7 series cards are the same generation. The GTX 770 is just a rebranded GTX 680 and so forth. The high end chips were released in the 7 series but not in the 6 series.

Interesting

i have to find way to lets say stablish that from one generation to the next has to be a 20% perf increase for SAME price, regardless of model name. Like stablishing an overall score that carries across al generations. A 770 shouldnt cost more at release than a 680 for example
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So you suggest I compare against x80 ti as soon as it exists and titans as soon as they appear?

I just finished series 4 and 5, but I dont know how to include the Titan and Titan black, is the black just a faster clocked titan1?

Titan Black is the full chip. Titan was partially cut down.

Arent the new quadros basically the full chips of this gen? P6000
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Arent the new quadros basically the full chips of this gen? P6000

The P6000 is a full chip. Titan XP is not. As i7monkey stated, the Titan XP is akin to a GTX 570.


I would still suggest comparing each card in a generation to the previous generation flagship and then divide that value by price.
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Well guys, if 1080Ti is full GP102 like P6000, prepare to wait for a very VERY long time for the 1080Ti.
Maxwell was probably a one time episode. Look at GTX Titan and GTX 780Ti and how long they were apart
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The Titan X Pascal skew is now equivalent to a GTX 570. It's a cut-down flagship like the 570 was.

True, but he/she was already confused I am sure. tongue.gif

It was close enough for the point I was trying to make.
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I think it's safe to say we're reaching the max consumer price for Titan cards the middle class is willing to spend. I've owned all the Titan cards except the Black and I've seen more outcry on the pricing for this card more than all the other Titan series combined. I'd say $1500 is the point where Nvidia might start seeing a massive drop in sales and may have to price cut. It's inevitable going to be the next Titan price most likely.

The first Titan got a free pass since they legitimately made it a professional / workstation GPU as well. I guess it was all smoke & mirrors since they haven't done that ever since.

The only reason why this Titan pricing is acceptable for me is because I only need 2 GPU's now for *my* minimum requirements (4k 60 FPS minimum on max settings) which previously took 3-4 GPU's prior that inturn cost even more. This is of course until next gen games and/or 4k 120hz monitors come out though which we may see by 2017~2018.
Edited by Seyumi - 7/26/16 at 2:00pm
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Well guys, if 1080Ti is full GP102 like P6000, prepare to wait for a very VERY long time for the 1080Ti.
Maxwell was probably a one time episode. Look at GTX Titan and GTX 780Ti and how long they were apart

780 Ti only existed because 290X took the performance crown from OG Titan, and JHH would rather die from hyperthermia due to wearing a leather jacket in a 100F/37.8C environment than let AMD take the performance crown.

I guaran-damn-tee you that if Vega doesn't smash Titan XP to bits, there will NOT be a "full 1080 Ti". Ever. (they may still release a full GP102 and call it Titan X Black and charge $1500 for it though)
Edited by magnek - 7/26/16 at 1:44pm
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so in the end theres no point on getting this card...

So we already established this is a cut chip TI for $1200???

So nvidia can spin XD


But you know its ok to give nvidia our monies XD
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