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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Silly I know but I like the aesthetic of four dimms over two, but thanks for the heads up. Been a while since I was on anything less than X79. Also going with 980Tis simply so I can get those sweet Aquacomputer blocks for them. Not much available for the 1070's right now...

About my usage, I do render a lot a video in adobe premiere so do you think the 6700 K would be at least as fast as my 4930 K or should I just go ahead and go with the 5960 X?

Those sweet Aquacomputer blocks for 1070 are on sale already. biggrin.gif

But yeah, max OC vs max OC 1070 and 980 Ti is basically identical under DX11, and DX12/VR 1070 wins of course. 2GB extra vram is also nice and would help futureproof against terribad console ports rolleyes.gifrolleyes.gif But yeah like I said I personally wouldn't jump on a 980 Ti until it hits the $300 mark (with rebates is fine), but that's just me.
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You specifically said that it was "like a GTX 570" with the full 3,840 card being like a 580. You were acting like it was a drastically cut down chip or something. I'm simply pointing out that even the full GP100 only uses 3584 cuda cores due to bad yields, so that's not a fair comparison to make. Especially with how we've already seen with like the 980 TI vs Maxwell TITAN X that a 256 core difference makes next to NO difference really; maybe a couple percent at most. And with a larger core count of 3584 vs 3840 instead of 2816 vs 3072 you see even LESS percent difference between the two than we did between the 980 TI and Maxwell TITAN X.

Plus the die sizes make the "570 vs 580" comparison even more wrong. The 570 and 580 didn't even use a full 600mm2 die either! They used a 520mm2 die size! The GTX 480 used a 529mm2 die and the tweaked for better heat/power consumption 580 that was more of an "efficiency enhanced 480" used a slightly shrunk down 520mm2 die size.

Hell, lets go even FARTHER back! Even the Nvidia 9800 GTX flagship only had a 324mm2 die size! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_9_series

This is why i'm saying that people complaining about the 478mm2 die size of the GP102 being "a ripoff cut-down chip" and saying that "in the past we would've gotten an x70 card with that kinda die size with the x80 being even bigger!" but that's simply not the case as even going back 10 years Nvidia NEVER made a 600mm2 die. The closest they've ever gotten in the past 10 years was the GTX 480 with 529mm2, which is still MUCH closer to the 478mm2 size of GP102 TITAN X than it is to the 601mm2 size of GP200/GK210 etc.. on the 780 TI and 980 TI. People are just trying to find any excuse to complain about a card they can't afford. (not talking about you in this last part for the record. Talking about others who commented back pages back near where you commented)

You are the only one arguing about die size. Inaccurately to top it off. You can't seem to figure out that the Titan XP is a cutdown version of GP102 and that GP100 is going to be larger due to HBM2 integration. Think back to Titan and Titan Black or GTX 780 and GTX 780 Ti. If you still can't comprehend the argument...

Also, the Nvidia 9800 GTX launched at $299
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post #1933 of 3587
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Silly I know but I like the aesthetic of four dimms over two, but thanks for the heads up. Been a while since I was on anything less than X79. Also going with 980Tis simply so I can get those sweet Aquacomputer blocks for them. Not much available for the 1070's right now...

About my usage, I do render a lot a video in adobe premiere so do you think the 6700 K would be at least as fast as my 4930 K or should I just go ahead and go with the 5960 X?
Just get alerted by nowinstock.net if you want 1070s, you can get them in no time. I got my 2 1070s STRIXs at an amazing price and loving them. If the Titan XP is stated by Nvidia to be 60% faster than the Titan X than 1070 SLI will easily beat the XP when SLI scaling is good. When good scaling I calculate the 1070s could be as much as 40% faster than the Titan XP, but you need a high res to take advantage of them. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1070_2_way_sli_review,24.html
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post #1934 of 3587
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Agreed. I've got til November til it expires so I will part out the rig before then, send the old one in to Intel and have them send me a new one to sell BNIB. Just now I've made two NE Wishlists:

Intel 6700K
Asus Maximus VII Formula
4 x 4GB Corsair Dominator DDR4 3000MHz
2 x GTX 980Ti (reference)
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Total - $2044

Or:

Intel 5960X
Asus Rampage V Extreme
4 x 4GB Corsair Dominator DDR4 3000MHz
2 x GTX 980Ti (reference)
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Total - $2895

I figure I should be able to get around $800-$1000 back in parting out my rig ($250 per OG Titan, $150 for RIVE, $400 for 4930K; sound about right to you???) so I'm wondering which way to go? Only $850 more for an Octo-core setup, though slower single core speeds. What you think?

I downsized in a major way. From a Corsair 900D with 29 fans to Silverstone SG05BB-LITE. Consider an ITX build thumb.gif

I don't video edit so I don't see any practical use beyond 4 cores currently. Kaby lake should be out around November... Was thinking of delidding this 6700K but now I think it will be replaced in December with Kaby Lake or Zen...
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Agreed. I've got til November til it expires so I will part out the rig before then, send the old one in to Intel and have them send me a new one to sell BNIB. Just now I've made two NE Wishlists:

Intel 6700K
Asus Maximus VII Formula
4 x 4GB Corsair Dominator DDR4 3000MHz
2 x GTX 980Ti (reference)
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Total - $2044

Or:

Intel 5960X
Asus Rampage V Extreme
4 x 4GB Corsair Dominator DDR4 3000MHz
2 x GTX 980Ti (reference)
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB
Total - $2895

I figure I should be able to get around $800-$1000 back in parting out my rig ($250 per OG Titan, $150 for RIVE, $400 for 4930K; sound about right to you???) so I'm wondering which way to go? Only $850 more for an Octo-core setup, though slower single core speeds. What you think?
I thought Intel shipped replacement CPU's without the retail box?
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I thought Intel shipped replacement CPU's without the retail box?

Not when I got my 3960X replaced. Came with full retail packaging brand new. Sold on eBay and installed new 4930k I bought out of pocket.
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Not when I got my 3960X replaced. Came with full retail packaging brand new. Sold on eBay and installed new 4930k I bought out of pocket.
Hope that's still true when I decide to do the same thing 2-3 years from now. Also, why are you so interested in 980 Ti reference cards?
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You are the only one arguing about die size. Inaccurately to top it off. You can't seem to figure out that the Titan XP is a cutdown version of GP102 and that GP100 is going to be larger due to HBM2 integration. Think back to Titan and Titan Black or GTX 780 and GTX 780 Ti. If you still can't comprehend the argument...

Also, the Nvidia 9800 GTX launched at $299

I forgot to point out to him, but prior to GM200, GT200 (used on the GTX 280) was also a monolith at 576mm². In fact, it's the second largest die in nVidia's history, right after GM200 @ 601mm². (well 3rd largest now that GP100 is 610mm² I suppose)

Not to mention GK110 itself was pretty beastly at 561mm². So:

GP100 = 610mm²
GM200 = 601mm²
GK110 = 561mm²
GF110 = 520mm²
GT200 = 576mm²

So if anything, Fermi was the odd one out at <550mm² die size. And if one wants to go REALLY far back, then the first big die nVidia made was G80, and it was still pretty massive for its time at 484mm². But yeah in any case he definitely remembered wrong.
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I thought Intel shipped replacement CPU's without the retail box?

I got my replacement 4930K in a full retail box. There was a label that covered the entire front side with what appears to be internal transfer details, but nothing a little elbow grease couldn't get rid of.
Edited by magnek - 7/27/16 at 9:24pm
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Hope that's still true when I decide to do the same thing 2-3 years from now. Also, why are you so interested in 980 Ti reference cards?

These:

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Ooooh, I see now. thumb.gif
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