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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

3072 is too small of an increase over 1080 ...


IMO 1080Ti is either 3328, 3584 or 3840 ...
Here's my reasoning.
  • GTX 1080 has 2560 Cuda cores.
  • Titan XP has 3584 Cuda cores.
  • 3072 Cuda cores is bang in the middle of those two.

But also remember that GP102 has a 384 bit memory bus as compared to the 256 bit bus of the GP104 of the GTX 1080. So there's a bit extra performance there too.
post #1982 of 3587
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Is Ashes still the only dx12 game that supports multi gpu atm?

RoTR DX12 is. It works very well for me with CFX compare to DX11 CFX. I get same average fps but it's a lot smoother.
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post #1983 of 3587
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Nvidia aren't doing any SLI optimizations any more from DX12 onwards. The only SLI mode available is Explicit Mode. That means they are making game developers write for SLI. So that will go one of two ways.
  1. Game developers code for Explicit SLI (like benchmarks do now) and you ought to end up with excellent scaling as a result.
  2. Game developers don't write for SLI at all and you end up with nothing.

There is no middle ground.

What you won't get is the flakey situation we've had before (DX11 and earlier), which is developers write something that may or may not compatible with Implicit SLI and you end up with games that scale to varying degrees if they don't fall over or glitch.

Nvidia are trying to make SLI better both in terms of performance and reliability, but to do it, they are gambling that developers will code for two way SLI.

For us, it makes it a big gamble to buy that extra GPU as to whether or not DX12 games will be written for Explicit SLI.

If that ends up being the case then expect Titan sells to go through the roof. Without SLI everyone will be forced to buy crazy expensive single gpu's if they wan't to max out games in higher resolutions. I personally don't think they will ever make a single gpu powerful enough to satisfy everyone.
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No one should buy a gpu with close to a third of chip disabled. Nvidia tried to do this once and made one of the worst cards of all time, the GTX 465. It makes for a very inefficient chip.

As long as the new titan is selling out, nvidia has no reason to release a gtx 1080 ti and my guess is they wont. So either you pay 700 for the 1080 or 1200 for new titan. If you don't like it, then dont buy it or support whatever amd is releasing.
Edited by Lex Luger - 7/28/16 at 11:09am
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If that ends up being the case then expect Titan sells to go through the roof. Without SLI everyone will be forced to buy crazy expensive single gpu's if they wan't to max out games in higher resolutions. I personally don't think they will ever make a single gpu powerful enough to satisfy everyone.


Ladies and gentlemen... Titan X!

I don't believe in coincidence. SLI is not working in VR, and soon it won't be working for the majority of 2D games, either. Game developers are not going to spend time optimizing for multiple GPUs when they already have to worry about multiple platforms already (PS4, XBOne, PC, tablet, etc). They are stretched thin as-is.

Couple this with the fact that Nvidia, since they won't be selling as many cards with SLI faltering, figures they need to make up that lost cash.. and I give you... Titan X!
Edited by Viveacious - 7/28/16 at 11:44am
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Ladies and gentlemen... Titan X!

I don't believe in coincidence. SLI is not working in VR, and soon it won't be working for the majority of 2D games, either. Game developers are not going to spend time optimizing for multiple GPUs when they already have to worry about multiple platforms already (PS4, XBOne, PC, tablet, etc). They are stretched thin as-is.

Couple this with the fact that Nvidia, since they won't be selling as many cards with SLI faltering, figures they need to make up that lost cash.. and I give you... Titan X!

They need to start calling cards for what they are then. GTX1060 1080P 60hz, GTX1070 1080P 144hz/ 1440P 60hz, GTX1080 1440P 120-144hz/ Ultra-Wide 60HZ, TITAN-XP Ultra-Wide 100hz/ 4k 60hz.

If you like AMD you're screwed past 1440p 60hz.
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Is someone here that can call jjh and ask him if a 1080ti or titan black will happen ? LoL. Seriously if they release a 1080ti or a titan black soon enough, people like me could be a little angry or disappointed to have bought a titan x. I think Nvidia wont do that now.
Honestly a titan black could get me very angry at them if released before end of this year... I wont be really angry at a 3072cores ti and 10gb , but a 3328 cores with still 12gb ram at same speed could get me a little angry if happen before end of year because i prefer a 1080ti aib edition at 3328 and 12gb, 3072 is too low. Aib is so much better than founders edition, i will take 3328 with 12gb instead for aib, i prefer a 3 fans edition or watercooled ed and save 400$

Still i believe nothing wont happen before fev-march , nvidia will wait vega from amd to make a decision. And i would not wait that much time i prefer the titan x at 1200 than wait next march
Edited by renejr902 - 7/28/16 at 12:34pm
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Is someone here that can call jjh and ask him if a 1080ti or titan black will happen ? LoL. Seriously if they release a 1080ti or a titan black soon enough, people like me will be a little angry or disappointed to have bought a titan x. I think Nvidia wont do that now
Honestly a titan black could get me very angry at them if released before end of this year... I wont be really angry at a 3072cores ti and 10gb , but a 3328 cores with still 12gb ram at same speed could get me a little angry if happen before end of year because i prefer a 1080ti aib edition at 3328 and 12gb, 3072 is too low. Aib is so much better than founders edition, i will take 3328 with 12gb instead for aib, i prefer a 3 fans edition or watercooled ed.

Still i believe nothing wont happen before fev-march , nvidia will wait vega from amd to make a decision. And i would not wait that much time i prefer the titan x at 1200 than wait next march


I've mentioned this in another thread but Msi has yet to release a Lightning 1080. With no apparent plans to do so. Last time this happen we got a 980Ti Lightning instead. If this no more SLI thing comes true I really don't have much of a choice. It's Titan-XP or Titan Black or better for me in the resolutions I play at.
 
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With the voltage lock downs and diminishing scaling in recent generation, the Lighting has been losing appeal. Even the HOF doesn't have that great of an advantage in oc headroom.
 
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With the voltage lock downs and diminishing scaling in recent generation, the Lighting has been losing appeal. Even the HOF doesn't have that great of an advantage in oc headroom.

You may be surprised but I'd say 70% or more of the higher clocked AIB gpu's are never touched by the consumer as far as overclocking. The LIGHTNING is MSI's premier gpu and has been for many years. Offering superior build,near silent operation, better cooling and higher clocks then most of its competitors. I doubt the 30% of consumers who actually overclock their gpu's even further will be enough to sway MSI to discontinue their product.
 
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