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You don't need one get a 1080 it's the same thing the vram is marketing crap .

No one can seriously be in this big of denial that the 1080 is no longer the best card. The 1080 is not 60% faster than the previous Titan X. Even with the VRAM aside, this card will stomp over the 1080 no matter how you look at it - about 30-35% faster.

Also, stop telling people what they need/should do with their money when they never asked.
Edited by Murlocke - 7/30/16 at 7:38pm
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No one can seriously be in this big of denial that the 1080 is no longer the best card.

The 1080 will end up going down as one of the most useless flagship purchases in the history of video cards it would seem. $700 and just two months on the market of being on top before being completely shunted down the product stack! Obviously Nvidia really cares about its high end customers! And yet these same clowns will still hit the threads in droves defending every single thing this company does to them (just like Apple fanboys)! Ironically, the fact that it was a total paper launch and nearly vaporware for so long is going to end up working to a lot of people's advantage...
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The 1080 will end up going down as one of the most useless flagship purchases in the history of video cards it would seem. $700 and just two months on the market of being on top before being completely shunted down the product stack! Obviously Nvidia really cares about its high end customers! And yet these same clowns will still hit the threads in droves defending every single thing this company does to them (just like Apple fanboys)! Ironically, the fact that it was a total paper launch and nearly vaporware for so long is going to end up working to a lot of people's advantage...

The TItanXP price sucks, not much we can do about it except only buy two instead of four biggrin.gif

Why did you think the 1080 was a Flagship??? Nvidia Flagships are TI and Titan. The 1080 is upper middle class.

And why should Nvidia care? They are a company, companies don't care. Just like consumers should not care if a cheaper, faster, better alternative crops up from a competitor.
Edited by l88bastar - 7/30/16 at 7:48pm
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The 1080 will end up going down as one of the most useless flagship purchases in the history of video cards it would seem. $700 and just two months on the market of being on top before being completely shunted down the product stack! Obviously Nvidia really cares about its high end customers! And yet these same clowns will still hit the threads in droves defending every single thing this company does to them (just like Apple fanboys)! Ironically, the fact that it was a total paper launch and nearly vaporware for so long is going to end up working to a lot of people's advantage...

I think we are past the age where we will ever see a $700 card be considered flagship. I almost bought a 1080, but I couldn't justify that price for only 25-30% improvement, when I knew the next Titan or 1080Ti was likely not that far.

The 1080 is still not ideal for 4K unless you buy two. This card is the first single-setup card that seems acceptable for 4K. However, in the best case scenario they claimed it's 60% faster than a Maxwell Titan X. Running benchmarks on mine, that's still not going to get me 60FPS in games like GTA V, Witcher 3 (even with hairworks off), etc at 4K. It'll be close though.
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I think we are past the age where we will ever see a $700 card be considered flagship. I almost bought a 1080, but I couldn't justify that price for only 25-30% improvement, when I knew the next Titan or 1080Ti was likely not that far.

The 1080 is still not ideal for 4K unless you buy two. This card is the first single-setup card that seems acceptable for 4K. However, in the best case scenario they claimed it's 60% faster than a Maxwell Titan X. Running benchmarks on mine, that's still not going to get me 60FPS in games like GTA V, Witcher 3 (even with hairworks off), etc at 4K. It'll be close though.

The 1080s a nice card....a sidegrade from my TitanX, but I got all the new bells and whistles like Fastsync with it.......and Fastsync is pretty awesome with the 60hz OLED TVs. I don't regret buying my EVGA FTW 1080, but of course I will be selling it in three days tongue.gif
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The TItanXP price sucks, not much we can do about it except only buy two instead of four biggrin.gif

Why did you think the 1080 was a Flagship??? Nvidia Flagships are TI and Titan. The 1080 is upper middle class.

Every X80 card (with the exception of the 780 which released after the OG Titan, not before) has been the flagship for at least a significant amount of time. The 680 was the flagship for almost a whole year, the 980 for half a year for instance. The egregious part of this is that Nvidia was secretive about the Titan XP's existence and almost everybody assumed it wouldn't release until next year so they jumped on 1080's (mistakenly) thinking they would get at least 6 months of owning the fastest video card on the planet only to have JHH pull the rug out from under them two months later. Hell, I bet tons of people are still waiting for their 1080's to even get to them and it will already be relegated to second-best!
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The 1080s a nice card....a sidegrade from my TitanX, but I got all the new bells and whistles like Fastsync with it.......and Fastsync is pretty awesome with the 60hz OLED TVs

I almost bought the 1080 just for that because I am also running a 60hz OLED via a Denon X7200WA receiver.

Does it work well? I am super sensitive to tearing so I end up having to deal with high input lag and/or low FPS caused by VSYNC. I read that there was a pretty big flaw to it, which ultimately made me decide not to buy the 1080. I forget what it was though...

EDIT: The flaw was it doesn't work well below the monitor's native FPS, only for titles you are far exceeding your monitor's refresh rate - On 4K that is rarely the case. How does it work for <60FPS gaming?
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Every X80 card (with the exception of the 780 which released after the OG Titan, not before) has been the flagship for at least a significant amount of time. The 680 was the flagship for almost a whole year, the 980 for half a year for instance. The egregious part of this is that Nvidia was secretive about the Titan XP's existence and almost everybody assumed it wouldn't release until next year so they jumped on 1080's (mistakenly) thinking they would get at least 6 months of owning the fastest video card on the planet only to have JHH pull the rug out from under them two months later. Hell, I bet tons of people are still waiting for their 1080's to even get to them and it will already be relegated to second-best!

I think all companies, Intel/NVIDIA/AMD/etc, need to do a better job at giving time frames on when they expect a product to release. I think it's pretty crazy we usually only have a couple weeks notice for most hardware releases. I've always assumed they do it because it makes people "double dip" more.
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Every X80 card (with the exception of the 780 which released after the OG Titan, not before) has been the flagship for at least a significant amount of time. The 680 was the flagship for almost a whole year, the 980 for half a year for instance. The egregious part of this is that Nvidia was secretive about the Titan XP's existence and almost everybody assumed it wouldn't release until next year so they jumped on 1080's (mistakenly) thinking they would get at least 6 months of owning the fastest video card on the planet only to have JHH pull the rug out from under them two months later. Hell, I bet tons of people are still waiting for their 1080's to even get to them and it will already be relegated to second-best!


That is why ppl are pissed 1080 is the mid-range fake flagship, it was never the flagship but have to market as one to slap the flagship price.

now JHH have prove us right, he pull a true cut down chip that is faster than 1080, and that isnt the true flagship but with 256 cores disabled.

Some fanboy here keep defending 1080 are the flagship and deserve the flagship price and it make me laugh. I hope someone here do a chart on DIE SIZE vs PRICE and you will see where I am coming from.
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How long is the 1080Ti going to take to arrive now?

How is the Titan series still a thing? How are they selling any?
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this card will stomp over the 1080 no matter how you look at it - about 30-35% faster.

is 30% really that good?

50 fps + 30% = 65 fps

30 fps + 30% = 39 fps

26 fps + 30% = 34 fps

actual performance go from decent to barely any better. how much are we really gaining?
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